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by Christophe » 28/05/16, 18:36

See or review also one of Philippe Seguin's latest TV appearances on the subject: https://www.econologie.com/philippe-segu ... -publique/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9okJXusVwdU
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by izentrop » 29/05/16, 02:25

He talks about the US system there. A little simplistic reasoning of the kind all rotten straight from a docu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America:_ ... to_Fascism
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by phil53 » 29/05/16, 11:43

Can be easy izentrop but it's still true.
The revenue of the state at best pays the debt, who owes this debt?
The other related subject equally revolting is the stock market speculation. If we were reasonable, let us say, conscious of the value of the service, we should at least take liquidity out of the shares.
For example by forcing buyers to keep these a certain time depending on the number we have. To sell to the second nono is stupid computer speculation, destructive .....
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by Christophe » 29/05/16, 12:22

Izentrop, here we have no FED but we have the Law Pompidou Giscard: economy-finance / crisis-of-the-debt-to-back-on-the-law-Pompidou, Giscard-1973-t11038.html :D

And Philippe Seguin he talks about the USA can be? https://www.econologie.com/philippe-segu ... -publique/
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by Christophe » 29/05/16, 12:39

phil53 wrote:Can be easy izentrop but it's still true.
The revenue of the state at best pays the debt, who owes this debt?


States can not repay their debt ... only part of the interest, so it is only progressing ... the system is made so that it is not refundable ...

After it is said that it is the fault of officials, pensions, abuses of the past ... This is false and archie false!

The only argument that can hold is the lack of growth: the debt system has been put in place by predicting continued growth at 3% ...

phil53 wrote:The other related subject equally revolting is the stock market speculation. If we were reasonable, let us say, conscious of the value of the service, we should at least take liquidity out of the shares.
For example by forcing buyers to keep these a certain time depending on the number we have. To sell to the second nono is stupid computer speculation, destructive .....


Stock market speculation is another concern (no one has to speculate ... but we have to pay our taxes) ... but this speculation can be made with some of the money from the interest of the public debts actually. ..so related ... the people are smoking 2 once, once directly and once indirectly (when we see what US pension funds are doing to the real European economy ...)
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by izentrop » 29/05/16, 23:24

I only watched Chouard's video. Sorry but he annoys me with his sneers and one-sided accusations.
It is to forget that the system was organized in the best years by mortgaging the future and that nobody wants to discuss on the questioning of the acquits.
Reforms are indispensable and can only be done in pain.
Christophe wrote:After it is said that it is the fault of officials, pensions, abuses of the past ... This is false and archie false!
It's not with speeches like Chouard's that you'll be able to prove that to me.
It should be possible to measure the benefit / risk balance to know exactly what the banks earn with the public debt.
What is the source of this curve?

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by Obamot » 30/05/16, 02:14

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OMG: forgive Izentrop, great jester before the eternal (sect of international finance: amen) : Cheesy:
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Forgive him, because we have long praised the virtues of indebtedness in private ...! Possibly possible for some who need to be kicked the hindquarters to move forward? But the debt of the state, what virtue could it have (?) If not a powerful blackmail lever in the current theoretical model? Since, not content to contribute to the exhaustion of the world's resources, it can only increase its spiral since we know, in particular, that full employment will no longer come back and that relocations will continue in countries with low wage rates. are maintained at an arbitrary growth rate thanks to ... indebtedness, political assassinations (vulture funds) economic cracks even political destabilization and when it is not enough the civil wars ....

Forgive him, because he does not know that the leverage effect of the total American debt (private + public) would correspond to more than half of world GDP ...! Source not a smoky documentary of which he has the secret but coming from the IMF, or as revealed to us "the underside of the cards" thanks to prosecutors such as Eva Joly, Carla Del Ponte, or Dick Marti,

Forgive him because he does not know that the banks are also the biggest tool of world constraint, in particular via the "law of the markets" the mortgage rates ... the rating organizations and so on and the best! Yes, let us leave it to the World Organization of Planetary Speculation: in the name of the pèze, the money and the holy benefit: bring ...
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by izentrop » 30/05/16, 08:36

Obamot wrote:But the debt of the state, what virtue could it have (?) If not a powerful blackmail lever in the current theoretical model? Since, not content with contribute to the depletion of global resources she can only increase her spiral
As if it were a cause and not a consequence.
I found the image on a Blog or the name of the author is not even mentioned. Serious source?
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by Obamot » 30/05/16, 10:08

.... who from the egg or the hen ....

And during that time, abracadabra, we have the alibi ideal to continue the bleaching of all these profits crados ...

Is the cause not to be sought, especially in this absurd "law of the markets", which makes it possible to steal invaluable natural resources - not taken at the right price which would be that of the geological duration that it took for the - but to squander them at low cost for the benefit of the industry (which it is washing its hands since it is this precious intermediary who himself set the rules of the game which he is the main beneficiary then by the game of speculation ...)

The financiers are a bit the scorers of the global business, the butchers of the losers of the game of the plane ... And among them those who are forced to the spiral of indebtedness FAULT OF RESOURCES WHICH THEY DO NOT HAVE (while precisely where they should eminently be available to create wealth then thanks to the noble work of men, moreover if these resources are necessary to the states, of which every financial vulture knows that they will always be refunded ...) CES RESOURCES - APANAGE OF A VERY CLOSED ARE ARE CONFINED BY IT: EXCEPT WHEN IT IS TO MAKE HUGE PROFITS THROUGH THE GAME OF THE CREATION MONETARY, SPECIFICALLY DURING THE GRANT OF CREDITS ... And it is right there - while elsewhere in the economy the players are directly subject to the risks they take - it is precisely there that abracadabra, IOUs allow credit organizations, to create n monetary almost without risk taking and INSTANTLY ...! But Izentrop would find them virtues, and pretend to wonder where would thecauses», Who would only be interested in minimizing the effects ...
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One of the causes undoubtedly is to have allowed the state debt to be transformed into a kind of regal private tax ...!
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