Germany in 2050 without nuclear

[Gwenved]

Nuclear, the German bomb

By 40 years, the country could completely abandon conventional plants without undermining its economy. A pad against the French nuclear policy.

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The last German stone thrown into our garden comes from Jochen Flasbarth, president of the UBA, the Federal Office for the Environment. According to a study just published it, Germany could produce all of its electricity from renewables alone from 2050. This means that the leading economic power on the continent would not have any more use of conventional power plants.

http://www.slate.fr/story/25083/nucl%C3%A9aire-la-bombe-allemande

the report is quoted in the article but it is in German, the German opinion for translation

[Christophe]

It seems to me that Sweden wants (can?) There before ...

But Sweden is not Germany ... because it is much more biomass resources and needs much less ...

The title of the article is misleading because néamoins replaced by coal nuke it is rather easy ... Germany already producing more than 50% of its electricity with coal ...

[dedeleco]

This project is possible because if we look at the changes between 1910 and 1950 with passage of steam to electricity, horse and steam to the car and the airplane, it is certain 2050 such major changes energy and life, plus the use of life, as replacement and healing bodies as chemical machinery, robots, plants transformed feeding us (not dangerous GMOs, because based on very incomplete knowledge), and oil and nuclear power could become as obsolete as steam engines currently.

Besides this project we could avoid a Chernobyl in France, as some catastrophe that men are not infallible that resulting sooner or later the accident considered impossible, like Chernobyl, Chelyabinsk, Bhopal, oil pollution, etc ..; !!!!!

[sen-no-sen]

There is no question of the question of 100% renewable, Germany, France technological capabilities is perfect to achieve this result, and it is not necessary to wait 2050 ...
By using a renewable energy mix based on the technology of tower vortex and concentrated solar we could in less than 15 years dispense with fossil and nuclear energy.

The problem is that politics (especially French) do not ...

[oiseautempete]

There is no question of the question of 100% renewable, Germany, France technological capabilities is perfect to achieve this result, and it is not necessary to wait 2050 ...
By using a renewable energy mix based on the technology of tower vortex and concentrated solar we could in less than 15 years dispense with fossil and nuclear energy.

The problem is that politics (especially French) do not ...

there you dreams, must return to earth ... Neither France nor any comparable country has the technological capability to turn 100% renewable, only small countries little dense and richly endowed and water resources / Sun / geothermal ( eg Norway, Iceland ...) are capable of ... when the vortex tours, no one seems to ask the question of climate impact, yet the problem is obvious (mass transfer and high speed hot air to the upper atmosphere, creating artificels winds, etc ...), besides visual impact level, the cooling towers of power plants is nice next to the gigantic vortex towers ... when the sun: it n ' is not the Sahara, and the free surfaces in Europe are rare and expensive ...
Germany WILL NOT do without nuclear (they have already given up on stopping the nuclear long), its lignite resource is limited and extremely damaging to the landscape (destroyed very large areas) and its gas supply is almost entirely dependent on Russia with all the costs, that might has on the security front, France could still less even in seriously reducing consumption by optimizing and saving energy ... and multiplying micro productions ...

[Christophe]

The problem is that politics (especially French) do not ...

It is not so much political as "Not profitable enough my son!"... But has long been known that directs political ...

Viva La Fricocratie ...

[I Citro]

there you dreams, must return to earth ... Neither France nor any comparable country has the technological capability to turn 100% renewable,

... When the sun: it is not the Sahara, and the free surfaces in Europe are rare and expensive ...

AFAIK, if wholes buildings in France were covered with PV Pannels they provide (in absolute values) the equivalent of the current French consumption ...
Certainly, there are problems to solve (financial, structural, technical ...) but the deposits exist ...
Dreaming is one thing, ACT is another ...

It is quite possible to be (in absolute value) autonomous from an energy point of view of a house.
In France alone, there are a lot of examples.
Without dreaming of autonomy at any price, many members of this forum who are working on MASSIVE reductions (factor 4) of their energy consumption.

[sen-no-sen]

there you dreams, must return to earth ... Neither France nor any comparable country has the technological capability to turn 100% renewable, only small countries little dense and richly endowed and water resources / Sun / geothermal ( eg Norway, Iceland ...) are capable of ... when the vortex tours, no one seems to ask the question of climate impact, yet the problem is obvious (mass transfer and high speed hot air to the upper atmosphere, creating artificels winds, etc ...), besides visual impact level, the cooling towers of power plants is nice next to the gigantic vortex towers ... when the sun: it n ' is not the Sahara, and the free surfaces in Europe are rare and expensive ...
Germany WILL NOT do without nuclear (they have already given up on stopping the nuclear long), its lignite resource is limited and extremely damaging to the landscape (destroyed very large areas) and its gas supply is almost entirely dependent on Russia with all the costs, that might has on the security front, France could still less even in seriously reducing consumption by optimizing and saving energy ... and multiplying micro productions ...

It is with this kind of argument that we will continue in the nuclear standoff!
solar potential in France is very large, it is quite possible to build solar islands in the Mediterranean.

As the vortex towers apparently you do not know the device Coustou / Alary:


https://www.econologie.com/forums/tours-aerogeneratrices-a-effet-vortex-synthese-t3801.html

This device generates no vortex outside the tower, just a warm air current limited to a few hundred meters.
Also the tower acting as a hub, it will have no more effect on the climate than conventional aero-cooling tower.
It will also be the first industrial device for producing energy, water (condensation) and food (organic farming under devices greenhouses).

As for the visual impact ... it's a tower of 320 m which is the symbol of our country!

[oiseautempete]

It is with this kind of argument that we will continue in the nuclear standoff!
solar potential in France is very large, it is quite possible to build solar islands in the Mediterranean.

As the vortex towers apparently you do not know the device Coustou / Alary:


https://www.econologie.com/forums/tours-aerogeneratrices-a-effet-vortex-synthese-t3801.html

This device generates no vortex outside the tower, just a warm air current limited to a few hundred meters.
Also the tower acting as a hub, it will have no more effect on the climate than conventional aero-cooling tower.
It will also be the first industrial device for producing energy, water (condensation) and food (organic farming under devices greenhouses).

As for the visual impact ... it's a tower of 320 m which is the symbol of our country!

You are free to believe that nuclear power is a dead end ... nuclear in its present form probably because too generates hazardous waste to long life, but the future is undoubtedly thermonuclear fusion (may be be finalized by 2050), pending the ZPM
For the vortex tower, that's the one I was talking about ... in an old "science and life" they were talking about towers 1000m high ...
Solar islands in mediterranean, yet such a good idea:
1 °) it would die all life below fault light
2) at the first big storm it would be a disaster ... all calculations of long-term resistance to natural forces are systematically proven to be false, even for things that seem "indestructible" ...
In the same "bag" we can put the space islands with transmission of energy by microwave ... unrealistic all that ...
The solar potential of France is very limited, roughly we can equip the roofs but little more for large installations, there is little room, and there is the energy storage problem small installations, currently very expensive and inefficient, pending superconducting batteries ...
The energy of tomorrow will be based on new technologies currently in the lab, see next ...

[coucou789456]

Hello

6 the storm 8 1982 November (excerpt):

Remarkable winds blew, reaching more than 140 km / h in the interior, as in Puy, Aurillac, Millau and over 180 km / h on the Languedoc coast. Levant devastating waves and surges on the Mediterranean coast, the southern storms have an aggravating effect on floods, as they disrupt the flow of rivers towards the sea.

http://www.languedoc-roussillon.ecologi ... empete.htm

and I guarantee you it was blowing, I wonder what would have become of the facilities built at sea if there had been.

for those who know the area, the road from SETE CAP D'AGDE was swept over large areas impeding movement. and I speak only this corner there because I lived in SETE catte period, Languedoc entire coastline was swept away by the storm.

it is a reminder of the memory for those who have forgotten, that a calm sea as can be the Mediterranean can become a nightmare for sailors during storms.

jeff