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Lubrizol fire "not toxic"




by GuyGadebois » 28/09/19, 13:16

Rest assured, good people, the combustion of highly toxic products from a Seveso "high threshold" classified factory is harmless ... You can go back and mourn Chirac in communion with the media.
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by ENERC » 28/09/19, 19:16

I can not find the list of chemicals on the site of the prefecture of Seine Maritime. The information is normally public.
At the factory level:
Drager Smoke Test Tube: Simultantest Set 1
Acidic gas: 0
Cryanhydric acid: 0
Carbon monoxide: 30ppm
Basic gas: 0
Nitrous vapor: greater than 25ppm (NO2)
Drager Smoke Test Tube: Simultantest Set 2
Sulfur dioxide: interference with NO2
Chlorine: 0
Hydrogen sulphide: 0
Hydrogen Phosphorus: higher 0,3ppm
Phosgene: 0

Not cool hydrogen phosphorus : Evil: (Phosphine)
In fact, few components are detected.

Otherwise in the surveys around the site:
COLLEGE ISNEAUVILLE: STRONG ODOR AND SIGNIFICANT SMOKE PANACHE
EXTREMITE OF THE QUAY OF FRANCE N ° 3: Measurement on Tiger: 0,1ppm on isobuthylene beach
LYCEE FLAUBERT: NO2: 0,9: IMPORTANT OLFALTIVE PERCEPTION

Measuring points with values ​​are on the site of the prefecture.
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by ENERC » 28/09/19, 19:44

If what they call "Hydrogen Phosphorus" is indeed Phosphine, it is not encouraging:
(Wikipedia)
It is a colorless gas, slightly heavier than air, deadly toxic and extremely flammable (used for these reasons as a fumigant for biocidal purposes). Its boiling point is from -88 ° C to 1 atm. It is soluble in water (26 ml / 100 ml at 17 ° C) and in various organic solvents.
Pure phosphine is odorless, but the "technical phosphine" has an extremely unpleasant odor evoking garlic or rotten fish, because of the presence of "substituted phosphine" and diphosphine (P2H4).

The most worrying is the "higher 0,3ppm". Does that mean that the sensor was at its maximum and that we do not know the exact concentration?

And as it is very soluble in water, we put in place the means to detect it ??
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by Christophe » 30/09/19, 14:37

You made a mistake in the title, you had to write "a little toxic but not too much" : Shock: : Shock: : Shock:

The title of 20 minutes will remain in the anal!



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by Christophe » 30/09/19, 14:46

A first quantifiable economic consequence (more or less) of the pollution: big agricultural losses: https://www.novethic.fr/actualite/envir ... 47754.html

Lubrizol factory: an "oil slick" fallen from the sky which worries farmers

Are animals and soil polluted? After the serious fire of the chemical plant Lubrizol in Rouen, the prefecture of Seine-Maritime has frozen the harvest of farmers in the name of the precautionary principle. Some farmers have to throw hundreds of gallons of milk, a perishable commodity. The shortfall is huge for the agricultural sector, already in crisis.

The nightmare continues in Rouen. After the major fire at the Lubrizol factory on September 26, a few kilometers from the city, concerns reign among farmers. "If the analyzes are not good, it would be a disaster scenario", describes Aline Catoir, a dairy cow breeder in Normandy.

Faced with the still unknown consequences of the cloud of smoke, described as an "oil spill from the sky", the Seine-Maritime prefecture has decided to freeze the producers' harvest, in the name of the precautionary principle. The plant was classified as Seveso due to the presence of dangerous chemicals. It supplied additives for engine oils, industrial lubricants and fuels.

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by Christophe » 30/09/19, 15:08

2 images recovered from FB, the listing seems authentic, the other difficult to say:

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by Christophe » 30/09/19, 16:20

An impressive photo:

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by GuyGadebois » 30/09/19, 16:20

A real breath of oxygen!
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by Christophe » 30/09/19, 16:22

Good feature article:



On the national channels, viewers are not even entitled to the prefect of Seine-Maritime.
BFMTV proclaims: "The Eiffel Tower goes out to greet the memory of Jacques Chirac. Journalism also went out. This Thursday 26 September, it seems that is definitively abandoned the second term of the expression "news channels".

If, one day, the heart of a nuclear reactor melts, these people will certainly talk to us about the last posthumous album of Johnny Hallyday.


All is said...
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by GuyGadebois » 30/09/19, 17:04

It's a bit irritating, it smells bad, but that's it. : Mrgreen:
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