Remediation and astute motor protection

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Remediation and astute motor protection




by gildas » 26/03/17, 19:01

Hello,

A trick that may spread so many benefits are multiple!
Simply mount an oil recovery unit in your engine, which connects to the oil vapor hose that usually returns them to the intake.
The oil contained in the vapors condenses (place the recuperator in a cool place) and does not return to the intake.



There must also be better moisture traces back into the engine : Idea:
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by Flytox » 26/03/17, 23:35

"Interesting" idea, I'm not at all sure that it has as many qualities as claimed (save the FAP, EGR, Turbo), finally it goes in the right direction to help keep the engine cleaner, therefore close to the performance of origin in consumption and pollution. He does not speak of pollution by particles whereas the oil vapors "burnt" by the engine are the main vector for the formation of fine particles and other soot.

There is certainly improvement of the discharges but one liter of mixture (oil / soot / water) recovered in 30 or 40000 km is perhaps not very significant from the point of view reduction of the pollution, that would explain that the manufacturers of steaming does not I have not adopted ... to save money.
On an adventurous engine (as Canadians say) the pollution gain is certainly more significant.

On second thought, it is dangerous to let the oil reservoir / condenser fill up like this. When it is going to be really full (overflows), there is a risk that this viscous "oil" will suddenly be thrown into the intake ...... on a Diesel this can cause an uncontrolled acceleration of the engine and its possible breakage by over-revving (it is a fuel).
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Re: Cleanup and clever engine protection




by chatelot16 » 28/03/17, 13:06

it's an interesting reflection

the oil vapor recirculation system on the current engine works well when the engine is new then becomes a problem when the engine is worn, and even accelerates the wear!

a condenser cold oil vapor would be a progress, and if the cold condenser is effective useless to connect it to the intake: it avoids the problem of runaway engine if we forget to empty this filter

we come back to the main problem: the currently mandatory solution is effective on the new engine with laboratory homologation measures made by cheater, but not necessarily good in real life

the current recycling of oil vapor to the engine intake is a problem ... the condensation oil vapor recovery could provide reusable oil for something else

once again "recycling" is not a positive word ... recycling anyhow is often a waste
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by Flytox » 28/03/17, 22:37

chatelot16 wrote:a cold oil vapor condenser would be a progress, and if the cold condenser is effective no need to connect it to the admission : it avoids the problem of runaway of the engine if we forget to empty this filter


The problem is that the oil that is not captured by the condenser (because full, too hot, too much flow, poor recovery etc ...)
pollutes enormously, hence the need to connect it anyway to the admission to burn leftovers. (less bad)

we come back to the main problem: the currently mandatory solution is effective on the new engine with laboratory homologation measures made by cheater, but not necessarily good in real life

+ 1;

the current recycling of oil vapor to the engine intake is a problem ... the condensation oil vapor recovery could provide reusable oil for something else

It's very "pasty", stuffed with soot, what will you use it for?

There must be some way to improve the condenser:
* With more efficient cooling, although this will cause condensation of a large amount of water. An automatic drain for water, but resistant to mud : Oops:
* Larger volume with mud-resistant level warning light / alert : Oops:
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by gildas » 29/03/17, 08:59

To know the oil level, a glance at the transparent hose gives the info ..
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by Flytox » 29/03/17, 22:16

Given that the contents are pasty, there is little chance that this level does not clog with such a small diameter of the transparent pipe. In all the blows, he must even get bored to the top without showing the true level ... AMHA, this level manufactured like that, is useless. Moreover, in the video the guy was surprised that the condenser is also filled ...
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by gildas » 30/03/17, 09:10

To see if the transparent hose is functional we can empty the recuperator from time to time to realize the rate of filling, prior to the periodicity would be once a year.

In any case, thank you for mentioning the risk of runaway engine. If we forget to empty the recuperator, future users will be warned!

The problem is also to find a place to house this oil recovery.
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