Laigret project: financing and fundraising

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Laigret project: financing and fundraising




by hs47 » 11/09/08, 17:42

Hi,

I'm new and I think I posted my message in the wrong place. forum... Sorry.

I was just saying that at some point you will need to write a Business Plan with forecasts to find financing.

If I can help you please do.

20 years of experience in the field and an address book can perhaps help you.

sincerely,
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by Christophe » 11/09/08, 17:52

Hi and welcome! (looks like the mailing is starting to take effect) Thank you for your proposal for sharing skills, but I think for the moment talking about a business plan is a little optimistic: let's wait to have an (embryo) result first!

In addition, for the moment we will try to group everything on this subject: https://www.econologie.com/forums/groupe-de- ... t5922.html

Afterwards, we will create more specific topics as needed.

So I allow myself to temporarily lock your topic.
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by Christophe » 05/10/08, 11:49

Topic re-opened! We are now ready to talk about the administrative and financing side of the Laigret project!
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by phil53 » 05/10/08, 13:20

Christophe, how do you see it?
Because I noted 3 important points

The strain is not found, it should succeed without too much means.

It is still classified as dangerous, which means safety and protocol not within the reach of the 1st poorly equipped handyman.
Hence the need to join forces with one or more organizations with these technical means.

How does ecology get involved in this subject legally in the event of security or legal problems?
Would an entity be created and if so in what form?
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by Christophe » 05/10/08, 13:34

It is out of the question for anyone to take any risk in this project other than a (moderate) financial risk!

Here's what I just wrote on the other thread: https://www.econologie.com/forums/post99046.html#99046

For my part, I would be in favor of the creation (it's not too early, some would say) of an association but which would not be limited to Laigret.

The main purpose of this association would be to demonstrate the technical and economic feasibility of certain solutions and then to distribute the results, or even to participate in the development of life-size demonstrators (because that is the final goal after all!)! The Laigret process would be just one of these solutions...among others!


Why an association? Because it is the least restrictive structure while having the possibility of managing financing in complete transparency. It also allows, unlike a company, to collect subsidies and donations and can be declared of public interest in order to exempt contributions and donations from tax (that of Hulot is, there is no reason that we there is no right)!

In short, this association would allow, let's be ambitious, to give the public a choice in technological research! And pkoi not, in the long term: by remunerating certain types of "donations"?

In effect; why should a few ministries and private companies have the absolute privilege of choosing the research of an entire country?

This financing can be very substantial and the impact of an important association: the telethon, emmaüs and the restaurants of the hearts are (still) associations all 3 it seems to me!

This association project is ambitious and as much c moa as me (hihihi) if we can participate in it, we can't be the only ones to manage its creation!

While waiting for your opinions, I invite you to read this (old) topic in order to get some good ideas: https://www.econologie.com/forums/creation-d ... t1055.html

At the financing level: I am ready to give 100€ per month in this association (provided that the payments are monthly)! And maybe more for its creation!
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by phil53 » 05/10/08, 19:22

In this case, I don't know if the association can be created in time but Google organizes a contest of good ideas to help others. I don't know if this type of idea is part of it
They are committed to endowing the best projects.

- Home page with a small illustrative video: http://www.project10tothe100.com/intl/FR/index.html
- The project's objectives: http://www.project10tothe100.com/intl/FR/why.html
- How it works: http://www.project10tothe100.com/intl/F ... works.html
- Submit your idea: http://www.project10tothe100.com/intl/F ... _idea.html
- FAQs: http://www.project10tothe100.com/intl/FR/faq.html
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by Capt_Maloche » 05/10/08, 20:53

on my side I am looking for a lab
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by C moa » 05/10/08, 23:41

Hi everybody,
With Christophe, we had the opportunity to discuss these aspects and our opinions differ on certain points so it is interesting to have additional opinions.

Initially, the idea of ​​forming an association suited me well because it is simple to assemble and above all it is quite economical in operation. Then, we started to work on the technical part and we quickly realized that we would have to call on a lab of course, but above all this lab would have to be particularly well equipped because of the pathogenic aspect of perfringens. On the other hand, I think it is important to protect the works of the group. Indeed, since we are going to have to go through "specialized" labs, we are not going to control the possible publication of patents and for me it would be a real shame if they were sold to a company whose sole purpose was to bury them.
In order not to pollute this post with this last aspect, I suggest you discuss it here.

To come back to the structure and its financing, I think for my part that an associative structure is not sufficient. Indeed, all the examples taken by Christophe are correct but they were all based without exception on known, recognized and charismatic men (Abbé Pierre for Emmaus, Coluche for the restos du cœur, Nicolas Hulot for his foundation…). And I imagine that the popularity of Nicolas Hulot is not unrelated to the recognition of public utility of his foundation.

Furthermore, I have been a member of civil security associations, recognized as being of public utility (civil protection and the French Rescue and First Aid Federation) for quite a few years and I can assure you that we have not not many grants. In general, we have premises that are made available to us, we have subsidies for our operating costs, but without additional resources (training, DPS), we would be unable to live. However, our missions are dictated and imposed on us by law and our supervisory authorities (Ministry of the Interior in particular) encourage us to equip ourselves and expand our areas of expertise. So in my opinion, we should not rely too much on public subsidies.

For my part, you will have understood, I would rather be in favor of setting up a limited liability company to supervise our work. This would still allow us to raise funds for those who want to help the project (like the association) but above all, depending on the sums involved, we will also be able to appeal to private funds by being taken more seriously. .

Like Christophe, I think it is necessary for this structure to help develop projects other than Laigret oil. However, by setting up a company, in the medium term, we will necessarily have more resources than an association. We will therefore be able to help more projects. When I see the ingenuity of certain geo finds who pass by the site (the pantone, certain ingenious wind turbines, thermal solar assemblies, etc.), I tell myself that we must indeed help them but I fear that if we disperse all of sequel, we wouldn't be able to develop a single one.

If we look at things in the medium/long term (it's sustainable development after all), let's imagine that through the association we manage to collect €10 per year (in my opinion, this is a fairly high figure for our domain). Can we really help a lot of projects (especially if we don't want to give Laigret oil the exclusive)??

Personally, I tell myself that if we initially focus on Laigret oil and manage to develop it, we can reinvest all or part of the profits in R&D and therefore we can more effectively help other very quickly.

We would thus have created a real sustainable development company with an econological spirit!!

Let's debate on this subject which my faith is fascinating!!!
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by Capt_Maloche » 06/10/08, 10:43

There is also support for business creation such as ANVAR, renamed OSEO


http://www.mon.oseo.fr/profil.php?xtor=SEC-1
http://www.ifrap.org/L-ANVAR-detruit-l- ... ,0506.html


http://www.anvar.fr/ dc@anvar.fr mailto: iledf@anvar.fr
Site: 43, rue Caumartin - 75436 PARIS cedex 09
Tel: +33 (0)1.40.17.83.00 - Fax: +33 (0)1.42.66.02.20 - Telex 282932 ANVAR

Regions Crate http://www.rpfrance.eu/regions/j1100.htm
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by Christophe » 06/10/08, 11:30

The Anvar are nice ... but do not count 100% above.
Take any public subsidies like a BONUS!

Although our approach is topublic utility, I do not want the future of the project to be dependent on one person who will decide or not by signing a piece of paper for the survival of the project.

Bcp too much business break their mouths after exhausting their grant Anvar ...

So subsidies: yes but not that!
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