Engine oil of vegetable origin for emptying

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Engine oil of vegetable origin for emptying




by Gilbert » 10/01/07, 17:58

Hello,
I don't know if this message is correct forum but I did not find the one in which it would be best placed.
My question is: where can we find (if it exists) motor oil for motorcycle of vegetable origin (and not mineral or synthetic)? My mechanic does not have one and does not know where to find it ...
Thank you for the answer.
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by crispus » 10/01/07, 18:18

Hello,

You can try a search on the keyword "biolubricant".

On google or probably directly on the econology site.

Have a good quest!
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by Christophe » 10/01/07, 18:32

It exists (there is a large choice here: http://www.biolubrifiants.com/Produits/ ... anolin.php) I have already seen it but honestly (at the risk of being booed) I would not recommend this product, this for several reasons:

1) It has undoubtedly been developed with the skills and additives of oil tankers (we cannot improvise as chemists) ...

2) I very much doubt that the performances are equivalent to petroleum products (more than 100 years of experience and experience) and if the use of this product reduces the engine life or even the oil change interval I have bad to see the ecological interest ...

3) Its price must be that of a very good synthetic oil (40 km with a change).

4) The drain oil will in any case be widely polluted by the fuel and the unburned.

5) Finally and it is more "personal": it gives the driver a good conscience (or pilot in this case) so that he uses his car more often, which has become more "clean" ... but which, in the end, does not have not really more than another ...

I would love to know Bucheron's opinion on this type of product ...

Sorry but this is my opinion on this product ... but a Grand V (biker myself) anyway ...
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by Other » 10/01/07, 19:23

Hello,
castor oil, although it costs a lot of money I doubt that it can be used in its pure state in a diesel engine (not quite detergent) with petrol it still works, now some brand KLOOTZ make an oil of (castor oil) or synthetic blend.
But why search for vegetable oil for an engine, you should not think that the dilution of vegetable oils with motor oil will solve the problem when you run on oil!
For the older ones who opened engines that worked only with castor oils and even later with mineral oil (it is only since the mid-75s that aircraft engines have the approval of (use detergent oils) When disassembling an engine, everything was erasing it required a great cleaning of all the oil lines and I'm not talking about the segmentation or the top of the pistons.

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by zac » 10/01/07, 19:35

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Under the biolube label, it is synthetic oil suitable for the use of HVB; but in no case vegetable oils; Besides, he doesn't pretend : Lol:

Castor oil (extremely toxic), is not worth a good phrase (also toxic), and in addition it lasts 10 times less long.

To use in gathering of old for nostalgia and the smell, but I think that to limit the co² it is not the right method : Cry:

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by Christophe » 10/01/07, 19:38

zac wrote:Under the biolube label, it is synthetic oil suitable for the use of HVB; but in no case vegetable oils; Besides, he doesn't pretend : Lol:


Uh ... I'm not so sure that you ... I don't see how the oil companies could develop a specific product for HVB while no manufacturer guarantees (officially) their use ...

Not to mention the market which is "a niche" ... (even if it grows every day ...)
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by Woodcutter » 10/01/07, 20:32

I have no experience or specific knowledge of this type of product ...
Did you go find out about Oliomobile? It seems to me that there is a specific subject on these lubricants and in any case, some speakers know them, that's for sure!
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by zac » 10/01/07, 20:37

Christophe wrote:Not to mention the market which is "a niche" ... (even if it grows every day ...)


Hello

yes, but precisely biolube is a specialist in "niches", mainly lubricants for food contact.

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by Woodcutter » 10/01/07, 20:44

After a micro-search, there would also be the FUCHS Plantomot 5W40.

It was mentioned on this post.

Regarding the Panolin BIOMOT 5W40, it is specific to diesel, but if it is biodegradable (which is not petroleum-derived oils, it seems to me) it is given as made from synthetic bases ...
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by abyssin3 » 11/01/07, 00:26

Indeed, there is the Biolub which contains ~ 50% oleic sunflower, more resistant to oxidation, but it will never be worth the defunct Hélianthe which still existed a few years ago (until an oil tanker bought the patent).

The propellant was made entirely of oleic sunflower + additives, as for petroleum oils. Its lubricating quality was remarkable and much better than petroleum oils, it could last several tens of thousands of km. I don't know how many exactly, but it was really important. Some have even done the Paris-Dakar with this oil.

From what I read on olio, the main problem of lubricating vegetable oils is oxidation. This is why common oils are not suitable, they take at most 3000Km and 1 engine to clean after ... On the other hand, species of oil rich in polyunsaturated fatty acids allow to mitigate the oxidation (Ex: oleic sunflower, castor oil under certain conditions). All that remains is to add the right additives.
Under these (disappeared) conditions (much like the ice cap in a few years), their lubricating properties are apparently much better than conventional petroleum oils. But to my great regret, I have never been able to try one : Cry:
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