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Remake of the black gold with plastic

published: 30/11/12, 15:59
by Alain G
From old plastics to high-quality crude oil: this innovative recycling developed by a young American company turns our huge dumps into potential new black gold deposits.

The Agilyx technique, born in Oregon (Western USA) just six years ago, can treat any plastic, even the oldest or the dirtiest for which a recycler would be fine stuffy.

"What interests us is not the plastics that are recycled today, it is the plastics that no one else wants and which generally end up in the landfill", explains to AFP Jon Angin, the vice -President of the company, present at the Lyon Pollutec Environmental Fair.

First crushed, said plastic is then placed in a large "cartridge", heated to be transformed into gas, then cooled with water, the oil then being separated by rising to the surface.

In the end, more than 75% of the starting weight is transformed into synthetic crude oil, ready to be refined like any Saudi or Russian black gold. The rest is divided into gas and final waste (less than 10%).

This ratio means that ten tons of plastic - whose global production 2011 is estimated at 280 million tons - give about fifty barrels of oil, according to the company, even if the equivalent of ten barrels of energy were used in the process industrial.

“We produce five units of energy for one unit consumed,” says Angin.

- First salon across the Atlantic -

Technology has already convinced: in addition to the large demonstrators that are already producing, several factories are under construction in the United States. And the 60 SME has already attracted to its capital the US number one Waste Management Waste or the French oil giant Total.

No need in fact of a barrel at 200 dollars to see this technology emerge: "At the current price of oil, Agilyx is already profitable", underlines François Badoual, director of Total Energy Ventures, investment subsidiary of the French group entered in the capital of the American at the end of 2010.

Mr. Angin prefers not to say too much about the floor price per barrel required for his business. "But we are quite calm, the price of oil is not ready to fall below this level," he slips, smiling.

As for the crude oil produced, it has nothing to envy in terms of quality to that drawn from around the world. Plastic is already a product of refined oil, it is already cleared of many impurities.

"It is a good quality crude that could be qualified as light, often sought after by refineries," confirms Mr. Badoual.

First on this niche thanks to the discoveries of its co-founder Kevin Dewitt, Agilyx sees emerging new competitors, like the British Cymar or the American Vadxx Energy, but they do not produce yet.

Is a European facility in sight? While Europe has a head start on recycling, Europe also has less land to landfill than the United States or Canada, says Jon Angin.

Its presence in Lyon is a sign of interest in the European market: it is the first time that the company has participated in a show on this side of the Atlantic. ... 59299.html

published: 30/11/12, 16:21
by chatelot16
we must look closely at the price of this transformation of plastic into oil

as long as we continue to burn oil for fuel, it may be easier to burn the plastic, and recover the oil saved

it makes me think of a junk incineration plant ... when the selective sorting process started there was not enough plastic to make it burn well: so it added fuel in the junk for it burns at a sufficient temperature!

it's a bit schadock to make oil with the plastic ... while another oil burner has the place

finally being able to make oil with dirty and mixed plastic will always be a good thing: it will justify going to pick up the waste accumulated by the current in certain ocean

Re: Remake of black gold with plastic

published: 30/11/12, 17:49
by gildas
Alain G wrote:First crushed, said plastic is then placed in a large "cartridge", heated to be transformed into gas, then cooled withwater, oil then being separated by going up to the surface.

Water + Oil (no need to separate), fuel for a Pantone engine!


published: 01/12/12, 12:29
by moinsdewatt
chatelot16 wrote:we must look closely at the price of this transformation of plastic into oil ...

Well no, it 'sa part of the energetic content of the plastic that is used in the operation.

No need to bring an external oil.

published: 01/12/12, 13:00
by chatelot16
of course, if it works, the energy needs to consume only a part of what it produces

and as in a classic refinery we use to heat the parts that have the least value

when I ask the question of the price of the transformation is to know if it gives a positive value to plastic waste

if this transformation costs 0,1 euro / kg: it gives a value to all plastic waste, and will cause 100% recycling

if this transformation is too complicated and costs 2 euro / kg it will serve no purpose until the price of oil has risen even more

published: 01/12/12, 19:27
by moinsdewatt
A plastic waste conversion plant in Bristol

30 Mars 2012

Cynar, a company specializing in the transformation of waste into energy, has recently announced that it has awarded a $ 11 million dollar contract to Rockwell Automation for the design and construction of a new plastic converting plant in Bristol, UK. at the end of its fuel life for SITA UK, a subsidiary of Suez Environnement.
Based in London, the Cynar company has developed a technological process for converting different types of end-of-life plastics into liquid fuels, mainly diesel fuel. This technology converts mixed recycled plastics into "cleaner", lower sulfur synthetic fuels.

"Our technology represents a unique and cost-effective way to dramatically reduce the amount of end-of-life plastics disposed of in landfills and incinerators," said Michael Murray, CEO of Cynar. "Rockwell Automation strengthens our technology by offering comprehensive design, lifecycle management development and local support. We will then have a technological process solution that will enable us to rapidly deploy our technology worldwide. "

"This is a win for us in the waste to energy market," said Terry Gebert, vice president and general manager of Rockwell Automation Global Solutions. "This involves designing and manufacturing skate processing systems, automation architecture, software and power control and engineering / startup services in a single, fully integrated solution, using process automation Rockwell Automation PlantPAx ™. Our process knowledge, project management, industry expertise and global resources will help Cynar implement and operate a profitable and sustainable plant. "

Over the last two years, Rockwell Automation's Global Solutions team worked with Cynar to develop engineering, modularization and process improvements at Cynar's end-of-life plastic processing plant. in fuel.

With this award, Rockwell Automation will be able to participate in the design and construction phase of the project. ... stol+.html

published: 03/12/12, 11:36
by renaud67

published: 03/12/12, 11:56
by elephant
Read in the site mentioned previously:

can produce diesel fuel at a cost of 17 US cents a liter,

Even when one considers the much lower price of energy in the US, it seems to me to be holding up.

We can imagine a lot of things to make the process more profitable:

- recovery of the heat of the machine for heating.
- use of flare gas, both in petrochemicals and in iron and steel
- use of solar energy

possibly partially, of course

But I say that it does not work with all plastics, especially the pVC: what happens to chlorine?

published: 03/12/12, 13:11
by chatelot16
chlorinated plastics are dangerous when burned: dioxin

but when pyrolysis of pvc it does not burn: it only makes hydrochloric acid in the recovered product: the means do not fail to get rid of this acid

this procedure being done to recover old dirty and mixed plastic it is better that it correctly accepts pvc without making a dioxin fuel

published: 06/12/12, 15:12
by Macro
We did tests with a lab distiller ... The operation seems economically viable.
We have distilled HDPE, PP, polystyrene used packaging and without much knowledge we obtained fuel equivalents that we used and have worked ... I even in my desk drawer for months , this bottle remains that has the same properties as the kero ... it is a lil can deposited on the side of the bottle but it remained clear unlike some tests that oxidize and blacken ...
From memory it was polistyrene of coffee machine cups