I bounce on a link from Didier that concerns the site below and a subject that caught my attention and that I know a little (professionally) and to have read a very surprising testimony of a person with ... and that " we had not treated properly in France ".
I put the quotation marks because I do not know the end of the story but at the stage where I stopped it was very bad and because this testimony not recouped emanated from a patient affected and whose case had worsened but impossible, with his only testimony to determine the "responsibilities" in the fiasco of his assumption of responsibility.
https://www.pseudo-sciences.org/spip.php?article3073
So if anyone is aware of this "mystery" that seems to surround this disease and that did not dispel the above article it interests me.
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Hi,
You can trust AFIS. See here https://www.pseudo-sciences.org/spip.php?article2919, if not many other articles, since it is a controversial subject https://www.pseudo-sciences.org/recherche.html?q=lyme
You can trust AFIS. See here https://www.pseudo-sciences.org/spip.php?article2919, if not many other articles, since it is a controversial subject https://www.pseudo-sciences.org/recherche.html?q=lyme
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to trust a cult?
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Stop Janic ... there are good news about AFIS!
Otherwise we talked about it a few years ago here: science-and-technology / the-paradox-of-the-purpose-of-antibiotics-lyme-t14383.html (2015) and there Health-pollution-prevention / a-about-to-the-disease-of-lyme-borreliosis-t12559.html (2013)
From these topics I read that it was (very) possible that Lyme disease is sexually transmitted! Something that was clearly refuted by the medical community in 2013 ... crazy this contradiction for a "simple" bacteria (several in fact ...)
In short, we can drown fish (poison?) As much as we want: the reality is that the scientific community does not really understand the functioning of Lyme disease, Borelias and its cousins ...
The proof in 2 answers:
We could have asked the question differently:
In short when we do not understand we prefer to ignore ...
The Germans and Luxembourgers have a different approach far from the denial of suffering ... and even less ignorance ... Indeed; a lot of generalists and infectiologists put the lyme disease in the category of nocébos (negative placebos) when they do not ignore it totally!
Otherwise we talked about it a few years ago here: science-and-technology / the-paradox-of-the-purpose-of-antibiotics-lyme-t14383.html (2015) and there Health-pollution-prevention / a-about-to-the-disease-of-lyme-borreliosis-t12559.html (2013)
From these topics I read that it was (very) possible that Lyme disease is sexually transmitted! Something that was clearly refuted by the medical community in 2013 ... crazy this contradiction for a "simple" bacteria (several in fact ...)
In short, we can drown fish (poison?) As much as we want: the reality is that the scientific community does not really understand the functioning of Lyme disease, Borelias and its cousins ...
The proof in 2 answers:
Can we have a Lyme borreliosis with negative serological tests?
Yes
Can we have a positive serology without having the disease?
Yes
We could have asked the question differently:
Can one be sick without being sick?
Yes
In short when we do not understand we prefer to ignore ...
The Germans and Luxembourgers have a different approach far from the denial of suffering ... and even less ignorance ... Indeed; a lot of generalists and infectiologists put the lyme disease in the category of nocébos (negative placebos) when they do not ignore it totally!
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Without credible source, it looks like misinformationChristophe wrote:a lot of generalists and infectiologists put the lyme disease in the category of nocébos (negative placebos) when they do not ignore it totally!
Like many bacteria https://www.allodocteurs.fr/maladies/ma ... 19454.html(very) possible that Lyme disease is sexually transmitted!
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izentrop wrote:Without credible source, it looks like misinformationChristophe wrote:a lot of generalists and infectiologists put the lyme disease in the category of nocébos (negative placebos) when they do not ignore it totally!
https://francelyme.fr/ it is not the testimony of Holocaust denialists who miss ...
izentrop wrote:Like many bacteria https://www.allodocteurs.fr/maladies/ma ... 19454.html
Article written on 16 / 05 / 2016, updated 17 / 05 / 2016 to 15: 34
Well then and there is 5 years ago assured tooth and nail that it was not transmissible from man to man!
It was not a bacterium 5 years ago?
(...) But there are still very few studies because Lyme disease is never studied. "
For 30 50 000 contaminations not only in France, you find it normal that this is not studied?
There is a lot of suspicious elements around this disease ... well, what if ticks were aliens?
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Christophe wrote:For 30 50 000 contaminations not only in France, you find it normal that this is not studied?
no luck for me with an estimate of less than 2000 case in France, the research is not ready to begin
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nico239 wrote:Moindreffor wrote:no bowl for me
Why are you a victim
not Lyme disease, another classified rare disease, less than 2000 case, not orphaned because we benefit from treatments diverted other therapies, phew!
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Moindreffor wrote:no luck for me with an estimate of less than 2000 case in France, the research is not ready to begin
Where do you get that number? 2000 is false positive or false negative?
Sorry but the reality seems very close to my numbers: http://www.maladie-lyme-traitements.com ... rance.html
Prevalence at the national level
The number of victims of Borrelia Burgdorferi in the hexagon is now estimated at 27 000 cases per year( http://www.sante.gouv.fr/maladie-de-lyme.html ). According to data from the Sentinel Network, the average prevalence is estimated at 43 case for 100 000 inhabitants since 2009. Between 1999 and 2000, it was at 16.5 case for 100 000 people and between 1988 and 1989, it was at 9.4 case for 100 000 individuals ( http://www.invs.sante.fr/Dossiers-thema ... iologiques ). Based on these numbers, it is easy to see that this infection has steadily gained ground at the national level.
Impact at regional level
According to the studies done between 1986 and 2012 at the regional level, the data are more alarming, because they are estimated between 3 to 235 cases per year for 100 000 inhabitants. According to the Sentinel Network, the eastern and central regions of France have the highest incidence rates. The lowest rate is observed in Pays de Loire, Provence, the Alps and the Côte d'Azur. The intermediate level comes back to Franche-Comté and Limousin which respectively display 137 and 105 cases for 100.000 inhabitants, according to studies INVS / Cire.
Source: Gouv.fr and invs ... in short it is rather serious as sources!
http://www.sante.gouv.fr/maladie-de-lyme.html
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