SWE, the Walloon Water Company: 10 € / m3

[Christophe]

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Received today my regularization invoice for 2015 of my water bills: 14m3 charged to 134.54 HT + 8.07 of VAT to 6% is 142.61 € TTC for 14 m3 consumed is more than 10 € / m3 ... for a country which is far from lacking water resources ... in short, we applaud very loudly!

In 2015 I had promised myself to save less water: I can not force myself, I can not do it, my genes of econologist are too strong ...

[Remundo]

in Auvergne, it's around 1 to 2 € the m3 without the subscription.

there are many people who pay 1 € the liter in supermarket

[Christophe]

in Auvergne, it's around 1 to 2 € the m3 without the subscription.

As explained in the other topic: in "my" case it is the subscription (billed per day which does not depend on the volume consumed) which weighs the bill.

At the consumption level I 19.44 € TTC 13.6% of the invoice ...

In short, a billing system that kills saving behavior, after government campaigns that encourage citizen behavior to save resources ... how to say ... make me laugh (and I remain polite ...) .. .

there are many people who pay 1 € the liter in supermarket

Yes it's on ... but they do not wash with ... (although some emirs or dictators may be ...)

[Gaston]

We have taken the (bad) habit that the cost of creating and maintaining the network is "diluted" in the unit price (per m3), but 34 cents per day to pay for the network, even if we do not consume anything, that does not strike me as totally absurd.

Obviously, it does not encourage water conservation, but it is the problem of all products with a low unit cost compared to infrastructure.

[Christophe]

Obviously, it does not encourage water conservation, but it is the problem of all products with a low unit cost compared to infrastructure.

This is the concern that I try to put forward here!

All the more so as the titles of the subscription are "Distribution" and "Sanitation" ... which are at the daily rate ... logically they should be proportional to the volume consumption!

And sanitation is fun because I'm not connected to the sewer ...

[Gaston]

Obviously, it does not encourage water conservation, but it is the problem of all products with a low unit cost compared to infrastructure.

This is the concern that I try to put forward here!

We can not simultaneously have price transparency and an incentive policy

All the more so as the titles of the subscription are "Distribution" and "Sanitation" ... which are at the daily rate ... logically they should be proportional to the volume consumption!

Sanitation, yes, at least in part, but Distribution has no reason to depend on the volume consumed.
What matters is the length of pipes to maintain / replace (and we can not really say that a pipe wears more depending on the volume of water transported )

[Christophe]

but Distribution has no reason to depend on the volume consumed.

Uh the pumping costs (maintenance and depreciation of facilities included) and pretreatment of water (analysis, chlorination ...) ... are still related to the volume distributed ...

[Gaston]

Uh the pumping costs (maintenance and depreciation of facilities included) and pretreatment of water (analysis, chlorination ...) ... are still related to the volume distributed ...

For the maintenance and depreciation of the installations, that can very well be part of the "daily" costs.

For pumping (electricity consumption, ...) and treatments, these costs should contribute to the price of m3 water.

[Christophe]

Yes, I think we play a little on the words there ...

It's too expensive when you're thrifty ... that's it!

[Gaston]

It's too expensive when you're thrifty ... that's it!

How much do you expect (per day) to have permanent drinking water available by simply opening the tap