What to do when you can not make a pantone yourself?

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What to do when you can not make a pantone yourself?




by Sidore » 14/10/08, 16:28

Hello,

I have read a lot of more or less old posts on the subject of pantone motors, I am very interested but I am not equipped to make one.
I read that ECOPRA, among others, manufactures "pantone" kits, which I thought I understood were much less effective, but legal.
In addition I wonder about a product, ACTA (moderation: no advertising) which is supposed to fluidize the fuel for better combustion, and therefore less consumption and pollution.

I have a Ford escort diesel of 92, which consumes and pollutes a lot, in addition I plan to buy a VW combi (petrol) from the 70s which will also consume a lot, so I ask you for advice to reduce my consumption and my polluting emissions, while remaining legal ...

Thank you in advance
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by carburologue » 14/10/08, 16:32

go on foot, ride a bike or practice eco-driving.
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by Sidore » 14/10/08, 16:36

I walk on foot to get my bread, I ride a bike to walk, I even practice eco-driving for a long time to travel and therefore I am looking for other solutions ... But thank you anyway!
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by coucou789456 » 14/10/08, 17:11

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legal system, all pantone montages that you make or buy would have the same action, and if one is legal, the others too.
we shouldn't talk about legality, but rather whether it would pass a technical control, that's all.
firstly to limit your consumption of diesel and also limit the pollution that results, it is to add 5 to 10% of sp95 in your tank each time you fill up. the savings are up to 10%, and therefore pollution idem, at least, and therefore 10% more km with your tank, and it will not cost you much financially, just the price difference between sp95 and go, and for example 3 l of sp95, about 0.3 € more than for a full tank.
ACTA products, not great, but in their doc we will give you additional tips to save fuel, and that's where your additional savings will come from.

you can go see this subject which talks about it at length.
https://www.econologie.com/forums/voiture-di ... t5849.html

jeff

ps: personal, I incorporate 3 l of sp95 in my tank which is 43 l in all.
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by Christophe » 14/10/08, 18:25

You can also run on oil (recovery if possible): 30% all year round without changing your engine and 50% in summer.

About eco driving: https://www.econologie.com/forums/eco-drive- ... t1304.html
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by Sidore » 14/10/08, 19:48

So in fact not all pantone assemblies pass the technical control !? Not all pantone assemblies are as efficient, right (speaking of the "industrial / artisanal" distinction)?

In fact speaking of legality, I wanted to talk about the fact that the vehicle is properly approved, for example in the event of an accident for insurance ...

For the introduction of SP 95 in diesel, is there any hindsight for the consequences on the engine? I am totally inexperienced in the field of mechanics so I ask myself a lot of sorry questions!

And finally what are the "additional tips to save fuel" that are in the ATAC PACS?
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by coucou789456 » 21/10/08, 02:05

Good evening

for Sidore

consequence on an engine to add a little sp95, it doesn’t fear much, just may be to strip a little the walls of the tubes and tank (and again, it’s not sure)

on the other hand, it is recommended to those who have to go to a place where the temperature is likely to drop below the freezing threshold of diesel, to add gasoline (currently sp95) in the tank up to 30% at least to guarantee a cold start.

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by AXEAU » 15/10/09, 21:09

Bonjour.

here are 2 photos of the adm. the 1.4D engine mounts on an 1.5D
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by Flytox » 15/10/09, 21:31

Hello Axeau

You can caption / comment on your photo, I didn't understand everything about your editing ... : Cheesy:
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by Flytox » 15/10/09, 21:47

Hello
SiDoRé wrote:So in fact not all pantone assemblies pass the technical control !? Not all pantone assemblies are as efficient, right (speaking of the "industrial / artisanal" distinction)?

In fact speaking of legality, I wanted to talk about the fact that the vehicle is properly approved, for example in the event of an accident for insurance ...


For technical control, the Gillier Pantone and all its variants, it's not really a problem. The technician answers a certain number of very specific questions ... which do not touch on the Pantone aspect. We are a number of Pantonists to have passed it 1 or even 2 times without problems, just a few questions .... what is it for etc ...

Not against it can note that there is a deterioration of the exhaust line, but it is without obligatory original restoration and without counter visit. :P

Share against for insurance ..... does not kill anyone ........ the insurer will be happy not to want to cover you if the risk has not been declared etc ....
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