Miraclean = Pantone scam in sight ?! Warning

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Miraclean = Pantone scam in sight ?! Warning




by Christophe » 03/06/09, 23:37

Attention, a scam in sight a priori based on the "Pantone" it is called Miraclean and it looks funny but rather see the PDF !!

More info here: calendar / demo-engine-a-water-in-bruno-robert-crap-t7705.html

Proof (among many others) of the scam:

This domain name miraclean.fr was not found in the Whois
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by elephant » 04/06/09, 09:08

indeed, there are lots of miraclean.xx that are taken, but not the .fr notice to amateurs :D

well, they announce 8 to 10 am with a 5 liter tank of gasoline and a 5 liter tank of water to make 2500 watts (already where is the proportion 20/80?)
How much would a normal generator consume?

I looked left and right, in this power range, it's 1 to 2 liters / hour (petrol) between 1/2 and 3/4 of nominal power. Does anyone have other figures?
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by I Citro » 04/06/09, 09:30

I did not find anything about the :QUICK — Network of Agencies for Innovation in Sustainable Development.

It smells, indeed, the scam full nose ...
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by Christophe » 04/06/09, 09:43

elephant wrote:How much would a normal generator consume?


What is the point of speculating on these figures: they have no value or credibility in my eyes!

elephant wrote:I looked left and right, in this power range, it's 1 to 2 liters / hour (petrol) between 1/2 and 3/4 of nominal power. Does anyone have other figures?


The gasoline contains 9 kWh / L, if you take say a good overall efficiency (engine + generator) of 20% each liter can therefore produce 1.8 kWh electric. So it meets your numbers.

I had measured and calculated all this on a small gasoline group during my PFE in 2000-2001 ... Be careful when putting the reactor, I believe that the operation in "original fuel" mode had been greatly degraded!

The only interest of "pantoner" a small gasoline group, is to be able to run it with% of heavier fuel such as vegetable oil (30%) or diesel (50% hot) only hot! At least that's what I had achieved at the time ... but with a carburetor (or injector) instead of the "bubbler".
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by Christophe » 04/06/09, 10:06

Ay we are on the 1st page by typing Miraclean in google.

By cons as the word is not badly used in the Anglo Saxon countries, we will surely never be 1st but it is by typing miraclean pantone for example
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by I Citro » 04/06/09, 12:18

Christophe wrote:Ay we are on the 1st page by typing Miraclean in google.
Sacred Christophe, still as effective on page rank. : Mrgreen:
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by Christophe » 04/06/09, 12:33

Hihihihi! This is my job!

Hey "we" went back, this morning we were at the end of the page, now in the 1st quarter :)
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by Capt_Maloche » 04/06/09, 14:21

Don't you think we should also reference Bing?
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by Christophe » 04/06/09, 14:24

Hu? Bing? Kezako? : Shock:
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by elephant » 04/06/09, 14:38

This is the new name for Live search maps, microsoft's google earth. In some places, there are very detailed aerial photos, it's great!
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