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Living on a non-constructible land?




by harry ravi » 16/03/09, 14:42

Hello everybody

Here I am looking for information on all the means to live on a non-constructible land (mobile home, chalet, caravan, recreational ground ....) because the legislation is very strict on this and moreover, town halls, authorities and the neighborhood are pretty looking over the ripe.

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by Christophe » 16/03/09, 14:47

I have no specific information but mobile home and caravan is the most flexible vis-à-vis the law.

I believe that a chalet with a surface area> 20m² is subject to the same laws as a "hard" construction ... in all cases> 15m² requires a building permit.

After flexibility level there are also Yurts but you have to see if it suits you and that's not the most discreet ...
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by harry ravi » 16/03/09, 15:11

Here is my project:

I will soon finish my studies and I hope to get a permanent contract.

Considering the current conjuncture, the rates are not high, I tell myself, as much to buy, it will cost me the price of a rental.

I have in the final idea to build a chalet (but there it costs a little expensive anyway).
There I have the idea of ​​finding myself a non-building plot and installing a mobile home (on wheels) of around 30m², hoping not to exceed 50-60k €.

only, it seems to me that the installation of mobile homes can only be done in camping or "recreation grounds".

The yurt is not what I am looking for because I am looking for a minimum of space, I also followed a construction of a yurt on a website and it seems to me too picky for me (and it takes time to dry the wood).
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by Christophe » 16/03/09, 15:28

harry ravi wrote:only, it seems to me that the installation of mobile homes can only be done in camping or "recreation grounds".


Oh no, anyone can put a mobile home at home either at the bottom of the garden or on private land ... but I am not a specialist either ... I just know that what is "mobile" in the broad sense is good easier to put down than what is stationary.

If you find an official link or doc it would interest us!

I think that installing a 20m² mobile caravan should be less restrictive administratively than a 20m² garden shed ... in "hard".
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by tigrou_838 » 16/03/09, 15:41

hello, be careful with building permits and request for authorization to work, it is quite restrictive, well inform before doing anything.

the rules were changed not long ago.

I was quite surprised when I inquired about the request for authorization to work on my workshop of less than 20m2.

if i remember correctly, even for a caravan or mobilehome on a site, authorizations are required, even for temporary or mobile constructions, it is a function of the time of exposure on the site, therefore of immobility, the surface, etc .... of the POS (land use plan) of your municipality, as of the PLU (local town planning plan).

it is best to find out from the town hall.

I speak for France of course.

ps, everything is possible if the rules are respected he should not have any problems

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by harry ravi » 16/03/09, 15:51

Anyway, I will go to the mayor if my project ever comes to fruition.

Some say that yes, you can put a mobile home on land, but living in it is another story.

It would hurt me to buy a plot of land and be blown away by the mobile home a few months later.

Some say that you can live in a mobile home for 3 months and then you have to move it. Some even have the trick of moving the mobile home slightly to prove that it is mobile every 3 months, but I don't know if this way of living is legal.
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by Obelix » 16/03/09, 16:03

Bonjout,

There are several administratively correct answers and solutions!
First of all the best is the caravan on wheels but it must be moved at least 600 meters every three months.
If not:
1) Ask the mayor for permission to put the caravan on the site. (if negative answer => 2)
2) Ask the municipal council for a deliberation on the parking of said caravan (in writing and AR) and make hay to have the media and colleagues who attend this municipal council!
3) if and only if the municipality has more than 3000 inhabitants complain so that the law on the parking of "travelers" is respected (specialized and landscaped and serviced land compulsory) Can also be done during the municipal council ....

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by harry ravi » 16/03/09, 16:10

It’s for a caravan but how does it work for a mobile home?

It seems to me besides that there is a limitation period of 3 years for any installation.

Some also talk about houses on pillotis, do you have any info?
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by highfly-addict » 16/03/09, 17:06

Hello !

Some info here

Otherwise the forum the site onpeutlefaire is rich but must dig!

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by harry ravi » 16/03/09, 17:12

Thanks for the link, I've already been on the forum but I had not seen the site with the cards.

The sheet that you provided me indicates the information for a building land and for constructions.
I am looking for information on habitable vehicles in non-building land.

(but it seems to me that I dream a little too much)
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