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Friday April 11, 2008, updated at 15:40 p.m.
Piracy: MEPs against the French "graduated response"


The European Parliament adopted an amendment condemning the "graduated response" of the French anti-piracy bill. Contacted by LEXPRESS.fr, Olivier Henrard, legal adviser to Christine Albanel, believes that MEPs are "off topic". But the government can hardly ignore this warning.
In terms of illegal downloading, France is in decline, according to the European Parliament. During the examination of the own-initiative report on cultural industries in Europe, MEPs adopted an amendment yesterday, tabled by Guy Bono and Michel Rocard, calling for "to avoid the adoption of measures going against human rights, civil rights and the principles of proportionality, efficiency and deterrent effect such as the interruption of Internet access ". This amendment was approved by MEPs with 314 votes to 297.
The "graduated response" aimed
The French bill against Internet piracy is directly targeted, and mainly the "graduated response" component. Recommended in the Olivennes report, it establishes that an Internet user caught in the middle of an illegal download would receive one or two warning emails, then, in the event of a repeat offense, his Internet subscription would be cut off. This system would be placed under the jurisdiction of an administrative authority responsible for supervising the fight against illegal downloading. The access providers undertake to respect the protocol of this Authority.
Contacted by LEXPRESS.fr, Olivier Henrard, legal adviser to Christine Albanel, Minister of Culture and Communication, considers that the MEPs behind the amendment are "off topic". "For example, I read that the graduated response would filter the networks to confuse the hackers. This is not true: it will always be the rights holders who will spot the IP addresses of hackers on the Web. Service providers (ISPs) or the administrative authority will absolutely not do any monitoring or filtering of the network. " Likewise, the suspension of Internet access "will only be there to consolidate the law; suspension will be the norm." Of course, since the French bill has not yet been finalized, Olivier Henrard says that it is "understandable that the European Parliament is not yet well informed of what it contains."
Defense of old models against digital innovation
Already, last January, the European Parliament adopted a report signed by Socialist MEP Guy Bono calling for consumers not to be criminalized. Approved by 586 votes against 36, he particularly denounced this notion of "graduated response", a measure deemed to be liberticidal. On his blog, the MEP said that "the repressive measures are measures dictated by industries which have not been able to change their economic models in the face of the necessities imposed by the information society."
"This amendment is a very strong signal, which shows once again that the French position is not unanimous in Europe", comments Cédric Musso, director general of studies and communication at UFC-Que Choisir, joined by LEXPRESS.fr. Indeed, the Swedish government has already rejected a project similar to that advocated by Denis Olivennes.
And Swedish Culture Ministers Lena Adelsohn Liljeroth and Justice Beatrice Ask had published an op-ed in the newspaper Svenska Dagbladet, which claimed that "Cutting off an Internet subscription is a sanction with powerful effects that could have serious repercussions in a society where internet access is an imperative right for social inclusion. " They also stressed that "copyright laws should not be used to defend old business models".
But if France does not go in the same direction as certain European countries, it applies a system which seems to work elsewhere. For Olivier Henrard, "The future law is based on the successes which have already been observed in the United States and Great Britain". According to Christine Albanel's advisor, "in these countries, a large majority of hackers stop illegal downloads after two or three warnings".
No binding value
France is always free to act as it wishes, since the amendment voted on Thursday has no binding value. For the moment: "binding texts will soon arrive on the desks of European parliamentarians, notes Cédric Musso. But the European calendar is less tight than the French one."
The bill "should be presented to the Council of Ministers at the end of May, and could therefore be examined by Parliament during an extraordinary session this summer, in June or July", indicates Olivier Henrard. In view of this difference in schedule, France could therefore completely examine, adopt and enforce the Olivennes bill, before having to return to European time. "It is true that this amendment has symbolic significance, but French parliamentarians can hardly remain deaf to the ideas of MEPs, while France is about to take the presidency of the Union", underlines Cédric Musso.
Berenice Dubuc

[Christophe]

It's sad to see such projects but France is a big hypocrite with regard to piracy ...

She only has to generalize / oblige download quotas like here in Belgium... (cable and Adsl ...) but now that there is a tax on all CDs it will be hard to swallow it ...

Taxes don't really help purchasing power even if in some cases they are "fair" ...

[gegyx]

Ataxia for Tobruk!
(as the rifles said).
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Well, a record success in paying indoor admissions.
and yet ....
a success in downloading too, surely ...

So ! Piracy...

[Superform]

Download quotas are effective, of course, but at that time you are cutting a good part of the new economic activity of the internet: video on demand, and also online games ...

[Chatham]

Software, music and video publishers shoot themselves in the foot by pushing for piracy:
It is enough to see the delusional prices of software and games for the general public, some of which are approaching, or even exceed the price of Vista OEM for example, that also saying pieces of music at 0.99 € is MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IF WE BUY THE CD !!! ...
This is outright fucking, and as long as it does not change piracy will continue ...

[Christophe]

Download quotas are effective, of course, but at that time you are cutting a good part of the new economic activity of the internet: video on demand, and also online games ...

Yes I thought about it ... Well for TV via Adsl it can cause problems effectively but I suppose that technically it is possible to separate the count ...

For the rest a few dozen GB should be enough, right?
We are at 30 GB for 2 pc and that is more than enough ... and we have a PROFESSIONAL use of our pc and bandwidth ...

30 GB is what you can download in less than 24 hours with the new speeds ...

In addition you have to see what would happen after exceeding the quotas, there are 2 possibilities:

a) extra billing of the Go (not cool)
b) big clamping of the PB at a miserable speed (this is currently the case with us: it goes to 64kbit max or 8 kb / s ... just enough to recover his emails ...)

[stef5555]

let's not be selfish everyone or almost and now young people more and more systematically hack .d after you how many in france download divx, mp3, etc ??



answer: several million Internet users !!!!

if they had to put all these little people out of the web

AIE Aie Aie already some ISPs with 300 or 400 subscribers do not make a profit !!!!

the day my access will be subject to a quota, my termination will be sent the same day

[elephant]

Several things:

1) piracy is not new, it just became more efficient, what do you think we did with the mini K7?
2) indeed, this sanction is disproportionate: for there to be a sanction, there must be judgment, for there to be a judgment there must be procedure, evidence, possibility of defense, possibility of appeal.
3) well, we will no longer download, but do as in time, borrow CD and DVD's from friends and lend them ours.
4) anyway, they do not worry, we will always be one step ahead of them, including going through analog as in time