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Re: Electric Cars and transport, wire news




by Remundo » 14/11/23, 10:49

Janic wrote:Probably because pressing the accelerator reduces the EV's distance limit as you point out below! Whereas your old thermal driving did not take into account the loss of autonomy, the petrol stations being much more numerous and faster than the electric charging stations.

This “rational” explanation may not be complete; there is something more "animal" when you drive a roaring engine and you tend to be intoxicated by the noise and reaction of a thermal engine more than the insipid sound of electric traction. It’s the emotional side of driving that exists.
Furthermore, the maximum torque in EV being immediate, no need to increase the revs to obtain maximum torque.

absolutely right.
You will see it on the road, the angry ones (high speed, stick-to-Q, dislocations) are mostly VTs.

Being the most numerous, it makes sense! : Cheesy:

we can of course invoke this argument, but it is also reversed. For example, the angry people are often in powerful cars which are not the majority. Caricatural example: Kéké GTI or Audi Q7...
quickly overtaking another vehicle is certainly one of the advantages of the EV, it is better for safety, especially on departmental roads.

it's a mixed question, if the power of a vehicle makes overtaking safer, it also encourages overtaking which is intrinsically risky. At one time I was riding in a calf not exceeding 90 and prohibiting any overtaking, except that of a bicycle or tractor. With the Golf GTE I even want to overtake people who are already at 100 km/h :)
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by plasmanu » 14/11/23, 10:55

I once attempted a standing start at a red light against a Tesla.
With my Toyota Yaris D4D turbo diesel when empty, just under 100hp and very torquey.
I hadn't finished taking my foot off the clutch before it took me 15/20 meters.
And the Tesla Model S in dragster mode goes from 0 to 100 in 2 seconds.
Even my bike does a little better than 3 seconds from 0 to 100.
It must send the blood so deep in the brain that we must lose our vision. : Mrgreen:

Janic: I'm 8 years away from keyboarding. You should try !!!
It's a 20th century gadget. You know we're on the 21st!!!

I have a diploma in management IT: programmer analyst. So I know what a keyboard is.
But like a good watchmaker, when you know a tool well, you no longer need it or not.
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Re: Electric Cars and transport, wire news




by Janic » 14/11/23, 12:45

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Janic: I'm 8 years away from keyboarding. You should try !!!
computing, and its keyboard, is anecdotal for me, I much prefer reading on paper.
My targeted interventions only serve to share subjects that I know and I refrain from intervening on subjects that do not interest me. You should try
It's a 20th century gadget. You know we're on the 21st!!!
No kidding?! Do you really think we're already in the 21st century... compared to what else!?
I have a diploma in management IT: programmer analyst. So I know what a keyboard is.
like one of my children who practices it professionally, without arthritis.
But like a good watchmaker, when you know a tool well, you no longer need it or not.


[*] like me who have more than 50 years of "abstinence" from junk, alcohol, tobacco and other legal drugs, when we don't need them. You should try!
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by plasmanu » 14/11/23, 13:00

I'm very sorry to learn that you missed your life.
Perhaps in the next...

Your sport is kicking in touch then the ball in the middle.
It's anti-gaming... That's not how you win

[*] like me who have more than 50 years of "abstinence" from junk, alcohol, tobacco and other legal drugs, when we don't need them. You should try!

If you are Muslim I can understand
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by Janic » 14/11/23, 13:25

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I'm very sorry to learn that you missed your life.
Perhaps in the next...
It's funny to hear yourself say that, by individuals who spend their time destroying themselves daily.
Your sport is kicking in touch then the ball in the middle.
It's anti-gaming... That's not how you win
Not even! I have no attraction for these games for late kids who turned this game into a business! As for winning anything, History with these incessant wars has only shown winning and losing successively.

[*] like me who have more than 50 years of "abstinence" from junk, alcohol, tobacco and other legal drugs, when we don't need them. You should try!
If you are Muslim I can understand
no more or less than you! It is as stupid as claiming that the medical profession (indicating that stopping alcohol and tobacco would reduce cancers by 40/50%, or around 60/80.000 fewer deaths) would be Muslim.
We're in the 21st century, my guy!
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Re: Electric Cars and transport, wire news




by Remundo » 14/11/23, 13:35

stop the bickering... : roll:
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by perplex » 14/11/23, 15:47

Remundo wrote:
Recently, however, a new "race" of EVists has appeared, who overtake you in one go and then drive calmly, they often have Tesla model 3s, which are very quick to accelerate. Except that if they stay too long, their autonomy melts like snow in the sun... then you have to calm down, you can't drive 40 km/h above the limit everywhere... : roll:


I've had a TMY for 1 month, it's a little confusing in propulsion, I find the sensations of a traffic offender when I was 30 years old : Mrgreen:
Afterwards when you see the consumption it calms down a little, even if I am at 18 cents in Hc, it will not last.
I have never exceeded 388 km maximum, I can do much better if I drive normally.
For the tires I think that in EV it is so direct that I have doubts about the longevity.
In any case, unless I was forced to, I would never go back.
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Re: Electric Cars and transport, wire news




by Janic » 14/11/23, 18:11

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stop the bickering...
it is not a question of bickering, but of two different points of view, on the one hand individual and on the other on viability on a global level and where, already, certain countries are putting both feet on the brakes on this electrical madness which will lead into the wall...a little more! :(
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by plasmanu » 14/11/23, 18:38

Janic. You have to have confidence in the future technology and the engineers who work on it.
We can make motors without rare earths. Only copper (rotor and stator) and we lose a shitload of efficiency. Renault did it.
And without that damn lithium but it's a heavier mess with lead or others.
It's not that long ago that the first Toyota hybrids with NICD or NiMH arrived and look at how far we've come in 15 years.
The future is bright
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Re: Electric Cars and transport, wire news




by Christophe » 14/11/23, 18:40

The vast majority of electric motors were and still are without rare earths...a wound stator and rotor do not need rare earths...

So this false news is one more piece of info…
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