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I had in my youth a donkey ... Which had previously been the "microtractor" of the municipal employee ... No worries she knew all the good spots of the municipality
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in Belgium, driving electric is as expensive as fuel...
According to figures from the Flemish electricity and gas market regulatory authority (VREG, the Flemish counterpart of CwaPe in Wallonia and Brugel in Brussels), one kWh cost an average of €0,93 in September of This year. In September 2021, it was still €0,30, or just under a third. For those who charge their electric car at home, this means that at the time you paid €4,35 for 15 kWh, with which an electric car can travel about 100 km. This cost has now increased to €13,95. Driving the same distance with a petrol or diesel car cost you €12,04 and €11,34 respectively (1,72 and 1,89 €/l maximum) in August of this year.

source: Automotive Monitor. be

The advantage of the EV on the cost of energy has... vanished. So there remains the additional cost of purchase and getting spoiled at the fast terminals.
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In February of this year, I paid around 25 cents per kWh, not recharged since either in Belgium or the Netherlands ....


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This is the price it would cost today, in my case, it would be around 11 kWh per hour, so around 41 cents per kWh.
With a zoé, for example, it would cost 33 cents per kWh, because the load is 22 kW....
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Remundo wrote:in Belgium, driving electric is as expensive as fuel...
According to figures from the Flemish electricity and gas market regulatory authority (VREG, the Flemish counterpart of CwaPe in Wallonia and Brugel in Brussels), one kWh cost an average of €0,93 in September of This year. In September 2021, it was still €0,30, or just under a third. For those who charge their electric car at home, this means that at the time you paid €4,35 for 15 kWh, with which an electric car can travel about 100 km. This cost has now increased to €13,95. Driving the same distance with a petrol or diesel car cost you €12,04 and €11,34 respectively (1,72 and 1,89 €/l maximum) in August of this year.

source: Automotive Monitor. be

The advantage of the EV on the cost of energy has... vanished. So there remains the additional cost of purchase and getting spoiled at the fast terminals.


Except that it is all the more true (therefore false : Mrgreen: )...that there is not STILL "road" taxes on the electric kWh (at least not at home...on certain terminals maybe?)...we had a fairly long debate on this subject years ago...

Transportation-electric / electric-car-should we-the-tax-kwh-EDF-road-t10007.html

In other words: here we are comparing cabbage and carrots...(which we are going to have where I think and very deep..)
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Christophe wrote:In other words: here we are comparing cabbage and carrots...(which we are going to have where I think and very deep..)


You were already saying that more or less a dozen years ago....You have to stop screaming before you get hurt.
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The dream!
And if the future of the automobile went through the flying car? From a simple dream, it became reality on Monday in Dubai, where the Chinese manufacturer XPeng made the first public flight of its flying car called X2.


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View Remundo » 18/10/22, 11:26

wow i saw that.

It is very energy-intensive, very very energy-intensive. The propulsion in helicopter mode + the weight of the batteries = energy mismanagement.

it seems more something to go from one roof to another than a real means of long-distance locomotion.

it's basically a four-engine electric drone to carry 100 kg.
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Gildas wrote:The dream!


Without carrier wing any drone is rather an energy nightmare!

The ehang, the direct competitor, has already seen here a long time ago in 2016: Transportation-electric / l-ehang-184-first-drone-to-man-t14437.html
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View gildas » 18/10/22, 14:13

Remundo wrote:wow i saw that.

It is very energy-intensive, very very energy-intensive. The propulsion in helicopter mode + the weight of the batteries = energy mismanagement.

it seems more something to go from one roof to another than a real means of long-distance locomotion.


Except that instead of going at an average speed of 15 km/h in town by car, the XPeng X2 can go up to 130 km/h because there is no traffic jam! And this by going straight! So ok + energy-intensive but very short journeys!

Remundo wrote:it's basically a four-engine electric drone to carry 100 kg.


In Christophe's video it's 2 passengers, so at least 150 kg.

electric-transports/l-ehang-184-first-drone-for-man-t14437-30.html#p514218


Christophe wrote:
Gildas wrote:The dream!


Without carrier wing any drone is rather an energy nightmare!

The ehang, the direct competitor, has already seen here a long time ago in 2016: Transportation-electric / l-ehang-184-first-drone-to-man-t14437.html


For everyday use will need a landing strip!

A hybrid device would be a solution?

A drone must be very handy and can be parked to the nearest meter in a secure yard...
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View Christophe » 18/10/22, 15:04

Well, no, it's called a VTOL (drone)...

Here is a nice thing that I posted a few days ago in the paramotor topic, that's the solution (without carrying the car, huh...that's nonsense, they fell in love guys!): bistro/paragliding-and-paramotor-at-les-econologues-en-vol-libre-t11196-480.html



Obviously it's still far from flying with a man...but the design idea is much better than ehang and xpeng...
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