ADEME global EcoBilan of the electric VS thermal car
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Sicetaitsimple, you write: This supposes “bags” of several tens of thousands of m3. Good luck! . Indeed, and this is why I remain very doubtful about a significant and truly operational application...
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Remundo wrote:It's crazy how much good advice we get on this site.
This is not advice that I am giving you... You manage your life as you feel... It is a simple personal opinion that I am submitting to the community...
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Remundo wrote:I have my own underwater WWTP concept in the works. They will be invulnerable to storms and use technical elements already proven in different areas of construction and electro-turbining.
I am working on some figures, I will see if I publish in a while, an inventor friend exchanges with me on this subject and our exchanges are rather friendly. It was he who “introduced” me to this subject, he had ideas, I had scientific knowledge, and other ideas came.
Too bad we can't find out more, at least on the operating principle, that would be interesting.
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yes too bad eh
you could make fun of me right after.
you could make fun of me right after.
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Ah! Because there would be substance, according to you 
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Everything that is said in this video is what I have been telling you about for years....
The only inconsistent thing is when he says for long runs, to load "block"....
No, we don't do that, it's too long, we stop at 80% or less.
The consumption of Zoe cited as an example is neither the worst nor the best.
We must accept cars with looks that will change, in order to achieve consumption of around 10 kWh per 100 km.
My "tank", Kona, on a test of more than 70 km consumed around 000 kWh at the outlet.
It now has more than 96 km.
Journeys of 1000 km are no obstacle today.
We arrive at charging times, for certain vehicles, of the order of 15-20 minutes, to make a 10-80%.
Sure, some will grit their teeth over a charge, but no worse than the guy who runs out of gas.
The thing is above all that we don't want to sell you EVs, because for dealerships, an EV requires little maintenance.
At Tesla, no service is mandatory.
As for tire wear, my rear tires are at 96 km...
The tires are "cut" for the EV, and if you replace them with those of a VT, they will wear much faster, partly because of the weight, but mainly due to regeneration. (also when accelerating, but, with an EV tire, this problem is minimal, it is the regeneration which wears the most, but on the other hand, we use the brakes very little). An EV tire is not a VT tire.
The only inconsistent thing is when he says for long runs, to load "block"....
No, we don't do that, it's too long, we stop at 80% or less.
The consumption of Zoe cited as an example is neither the worst nor the best.
We must accept cars with looks that will change, in order to achieve consumption of around 10 kWh per 100 km.
My "tank", Kona, on a test of more than 70 km consumed around 000 kWh at the outlet.
It now has more than 96 km.
Journeys of 1000 km are no obstacle today.
We arrive at charging times, for certain vehicles, of the order of 15-20 minutes, to make a 10-80%.
Sure, some will grit their teeth over a charge, but no worse than the guy who runs out of gas.
The thing is above all that we don't want to sell you EVs, because for dealerships, an EV requires little maintenance.
At Tesla, no service is mandatory.
As for tire wear, my rear tires are at 96 km...
The tires are "cut" for the EV, and if you replace them with those of a VT, they will wear much faster, partly because of the weight, but mainly due to regeneration. (also when accelerating, but, with an EV tire, this problem is minimal, it is the regeneration which wears the most, but on the other hand, we use the brakes very little). An EV tire is not a VT tire.
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VE/VT tires are not inherently different.
it all depends on what you're looking for. For my part, I use tires with low rolling resistance and hard, resilient rubber. The grip is a little less good, but we don't leave all the rubber on the tarmac after 25 km.
On my GTE I had Michelin Primacy 4 and E Primacy.
On my caravel I made a small deviation and I put Hankook Ventus which seems to be a very competitive product too.
There are other tires, sports types, whose soft and grippier rubbers have the disadvantage of wearing up to 3 times faster.
For all EVs, I recommend taking tires rated A on the energy criterion, but I could extend this to all VTs because their daily driving does not involve a winding circuit or a drag racing competition.
it all depends on what you're looking for. For my part, I use tires with low rolling resistance and hard, resilient rubber. The grip is a little less good, but we don't leave all the rubber on the tarmac after 25 km.
On my GTE I had Michelin Primacy 4 and E Primacy.
On my caravel I made a small deviation and I put Hankook Ventus which seems to be a very competitive product too.
There are other tires, sports types, whose soft and grippier rubbers have the disadvantage of wearing up to 3 times faster.
For all EVs, I recommend taking tires rated A on the energy criterion, but I could extend this to all VTs because their daily driving does not involve a winding circuit or a drag racing competition.
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For my part, no concessions... I take tires that hold up on wet ground. Where I live there are 220 days of precipitation per year.
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In general, rain tires are not bad in terms of energy.
By cons cross-climate are average, and a fortiori the snow tires are bad.
that's it but it clearly illustrates that tires are tires with specifications, above all. They can be mounted on any type of EV or VT car.
The autonomy issues on EVs naturally encourage the use of tires with low rolling resistance, and for VTs this leads to some fuel savings, of the order of 0,5L/100 km.
By cons cross-climate are average, and a fortiori the snow tires are bad.
that's it but it clearly illustrates that tires are tires with specifications, above all. They can be mounted on any type of EV or VT car.
The autonomy issues on EVs naturally encourage the use of tires with low rolling resistance, and for VTs this leads to some fuel savings, of the order of 0,5L/100 km.
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