Sage sage?

[onlit4regs]

Hello,
gardener very beginner, I allow myself to post this message to take advice from you.
here is a picture of my sick sage leaves.

My sage grown in pots has many stained leaves (photo on the left), yellowish. This is not the case with all the leaves, some are very beautiful.
And recently, more and more leaves look like the right leaf (yellow spots + white film).
what is this disease and how to fight it naturally?

Thank you for your help.
PS: it is not the only plant in my garden which presents these yellow spots .... (mint, marjoram, ....)

[highfly-addict]

Hello,

it looks like a mushroom .... curative: fungicides work ...

Otherwise, I recommend removing the affected leaves, treating with Bordeaux mixture (copper sulphate) and ..... limiting the ambient humidity if possible.

Happy gardening!

[onlit4regs]

thank you for your reply

strangely I always hear that you should almost not water the sage, and me if I do not water it every 3 days, the leaves wilt (I am in the South of France too)

I will try to follow your advice
cordially

[highfly-addict]

... if I don't water it every 3 days, the leaves will wilt (I'm in the South of France too) ....

Unless there is a heat wave, there is actually no reason to water so much for sage, and that's probably where the problem comes from!
Also try to space out the watering gradually.

[the middle]

Hello onlit,
You are right to worry about the health of your plant, because it is very precious.

Its Latin name, Salvia means to heal. There was a medieval saying "Why should a man die while sage grows in his garden?"

First, you have to ask yourself what sage you have ... there are several kinds.
Then, know how to use internet search engines, and type the right words (like sage diseases, fungi problems)
I use my sage for canker sores, and the throat is effective within 24 hours.
Blessed bread, for the great smoker that I am ...
But I noticed one thing (I live in Belgium, with a lot often watered, but well drained) (black earth)
What I noticed is that this plant depletes the soil after 4 years, so every three years, in spring, I tear off branches that I replant in a soil full of humus, and I water all the days for a month, and I have a new growth.
I know that after 4 years, my plant is dead ...
I read that this plant does not like the sun too much, therefore, plant it in a half-shaded corner, and give it to eat (compost soil)
Another logical thing, if your land does not give enough resources to your plant, it will not be able to defend itself against external aggressions.
I never had mushroom problems like you.
(do not water the leaves !!!) (on the other hand, tomatoes and potatoes have no chance with me ...) late blight ..
I have never watered my sage, except when I have to make cuttings.
In conclusion, without being a specialist, I would say that your plant is hungry.
I should make you photos, that helps to understand.
Another idea, to change sage, more suited to your land.
Find the solution to your problem, because this plant will save you doctor and pharmacy costs

[the middle]

Here are photos on "earth fatigue"
First a photo, of a sage of + - 4 years, fatigue is felt
In a year, it will have disappeared, or almost:

Now, another photo, with a 6-year-old sage, at the end of the roll .. (two years before, it was superb :) notice all the dead branches ..

And now, a new growth that I had simply by pulling out a beautiful vigorous branch in the spring, and that I watered for a month; she will have 5 years of life ..

[Christophe]

Ours (planted 2 years ago in the greenhouse) is superb, even too much ... it becomes slightly invasive!

So question: apart from the fish spice, what can we do with sage?

[the middle]

Ours (planted 2 years ago in the greenhouse) is superb, even too much ... it becomes slightly invasive!

So question: apart from the fish spice, what can we do with sage?

Canker sores (just chew a leaf for ten minutes, and spit out the waste), or make a simple infusion .. (24 hours later, it's all over!) Whoever does not believe me, I would bet a tray of leffe if he proves to me that i am wrong!
Ditto for the throat, and certain gastric infections ...
Advice from a 95-year-old grandpa, make infusions every day because we must treat ourselves before being sick .
Example: 3 macro currant leaves (no pun intended), a sage leaf, 5 cherry tails (die for peeing), a few mint leaves, honey, a little thyme, and that's it. is preventative, without medoc.
But hey, here we derive a little from the main subject

[dedeleco]

Informative:
Each plant has its biotope, soil, climate, other plants, fungi, etc ...!
Roadside sage is hardy and adapted to reproduce in a few years, like many wild plants, often in two years, without the slightest care.
The prettiest nursery sage are less resistant, often !!
The same goes for many other plants such as mint, lemon balm, etc.
Often they like new land and don't like the land where they have lived !!
The same goes for raspberries, blackberries, etc. which go to new areas and remember the areas they have occupied, in my opinion, rather a signal left in the ground than only exhaustion of the soil !!

[Christophe]

Thank you Alain, it is noted. Very interesting, we wanted to create a sub forum "recipes", this infusion will therefore be of great interest!

Here is a photo of our "beast":



We can dry the leaves and use them later in infusion because there it begins to be invasive ...

dedeleco I think there is also the "fertilizer" factor going there that I will boost you with chemicals before the sale at the store ...

This is especially valid with exotic plants (flowers in particular) ... impossible to "keep" them in condition ... even in a greenhouse ... and as jve no chemicals ...