My stable, econological renovation project

[Alain G]

You need a closed circuit, that is to say two buried pipes (1,3 meters), one of which is used to supply the drinking trough and a return to the tank, the heat of the earth will keep the water thawed in the 'abrevoir and the tank (isolated), naturally a classic abrevoir does not work but a small tank with drain at the top will do the trick very well, this is how we work here in Quebec or it is very cold!

[Forhorse]

We build for ourselves, possibly for our children, the rest ...

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It is clear, when I do something I see maximum at 10 years old. But given the life I lead I know that at worst 5 years later I would have moved and everything will have to be done again.
So see something at 200

[dedeleco]

In early February in 1954 and in 1956 it was -15 ° C for 15 days in Paris and kid I remember well, direct cold from Moscow and Siberia, beautiful crusts of ice inside the windows, impossible to heat sufficiently, la Seine full of huge blocks of ice like the Arctic pack ice, skate on all the lakes of the Parisian woods, and I did not realize, kid, that I would never see that again, however common in the end time Louis 14 !!
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiver_1954
http://www.alertes-meteo.com/vague_de_f ... 250ans.htm
http://www.meteolafleche.com/Climatolog ... r1956.html
http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2006/12 ... cords.html
http://www.alertes-meteo.com/vague_de_f ... d/1956.htm
http://www.retraite-active.lesclesdumid ... 11671.html

So this can happen again, as a hundred year old disaster !!

Listen and follow the advice of Alain G in Quebec who sees this disaster every winter !!!
In 1956:

The Loire carries ice cubes 1 meter 50 cm (see photos above), -8 ° in Tunisia or the snow fell, 60 cm Bayeux.
We walk on the Moselle invaded by ice: -24,8 ° in Nancy and -32 ° in Sarreguemines, snowstorm in the south: 50 cm of snow in St Raphael, 15cm of snow in Nice where the city center is totally paralyzed, the vehicles are abandoned.
The sea begins to freeze in Bordeaux

[Grelinette]

Little question:

I just recovered 2 electric heating circulators (I will paste photos later).

To make a water circulation system in drinkers, is it better to use a small pump or a circulator?

[Grelinette]

With the climate of 320 years ago (small ice age in the time of Louis 14) the pole would have frozen (-15 ° C more than 15 days) and even more surely 20000 years ago !!! (great ice age) !!!!

It's curious, I recently learned that Greenland means "Green Land" (indeed that seems to be the meaning of the words Green and Land).

This means that at a time not so long ago Greenland was a land rich in green vegetation!

[dedeleco]

I recently learned that Greenland means "Green Land"

Yes, around the year 900, there was a stronger warming than now, to the point that Greenland was very green, with few storms in the North Atlantic, which allowed the Viking to go there and to settle there in a pleasant country !!
But around the 1400s a strong cooling (small ice age), killed them all and there are only traces and memories !!!
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histoire_du_Groenland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Greenland



This shows that the current warming could be only a natural fluctuation and not only due to CO2 !!
but since we have fossil fuels in the earth accumulated over 600 million years, enough to burn all the oxygen in the air with lots of CO2 to burn us before, it is good to quickly stop increasing this concentration of CO2 to gigantic values ​​!!


Therefore, CO2-free due to man, 125000 years ago the southern half of Greenland was melted, the ocean sea 3 to 5 m higher, the temperature 2 to 3 ° C higher !!!!!!
read
http://www.theoildrum.com/story/2006/2/3/0394/97545
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 120605.htm
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/01/s ... t-ice-age/

http://people.rses.anu.edu.au/roberts_a ... 202009.pdf

And the gulf stream can reverse and plunge us back into an ice age (very serious):
http://www.notre-planete.info/actualite ... hp?id=2640
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 09508.html

[aerialcastor]

but since we have fossil fuels in the earth accumulated over 600 million years, enough to burn all the oxygen in the air

Finally this is your theory ... which seems very pifometric.

[dedeleco]

Finally this is your theory ... which seems very pifometric.

not at all because what is pifometric is to assert limits since the beginnings of oil which are constantly pushed back, as in 1973, on claimed that there would be no more petrol and fuels in the year 2000, justifying the French nuclear program when we still do not know if we have reached the peak !!

For 600 million years and much more, life on earth has made excess oxygen by separating carbon and binding it with hydrogen from water and thus renewing this oxygen completely every 200 years or so and therefore for each living carbon atom formed there is a released oxygen molecule which accumulates !!
Even if 1/1000 of the carbon formed thus accumulates in the earth, in 600million years life has released 3000 times the oxygen from the Earth's atmosphere and as much carbon which even stored underground at 1/1000 represents enough to burn 6 times all the breathable oxygen of the earth !!
This argument is much less pifometric because carbon accumulates in the earth and at the bottom of the oceans much more than in 1/1000.
Even at 1 / 10 there is enough to burn 000% of the breathing oxygen and to suffocate us after having melted all of the Antarctic and oceans 80 meters higher !!
So we are not going to run out of fuel whatever its more or less expensive form !!

We will lack oxygen to breathe well before!

It is anything but pifometric, to fix the inevitable orders of magnitude !!

[Obamot]

but since we have fossil fuels in the earth accumulated over 600 million years, enough to burn all the oxygen in the air

Finally this is your theory ... which seems very pifometric.

I find it rather convincing, for my part! And I do not necessarily believe that it is "SA" theory, but in any case a reflection on credible orders of magnitude and foreseeable prospects if we do not stick to the standard model that we want to sink into our heads.
Besides, it cannot be denied that it was warmer in the year 900 than now ...

... yet there weren't many stinking Berlingo, no factory or house heated with fuel oil at the time.

[aerialcastor]

not at all, because what is pifometric is to affirm limits since the beginnings of oil which are constantly pushed back, as in 1973, it was affirmed that there would be no more oil and fuels in the year 2000, justifying the French nuclear program when we still do not know if we have reached the peak !!

Commercial propaganda techniques should not be confused with physical and technical reality.

To know the amount of CO2 that would be released by the combustion of fossil fuels, it is necessary to be based on the available fuel stock.

For 600 million years and more, life on earth has made excess oxygen by separating carbon and binding it with hydrogen from water

You mean that C + H = O2? (sorry I don't know how to shoot the arrow). Would it be very surprising?
In my memories, it's photosynthesis that creates oxygen.

each living carbon atom formed there is a released oxygen molecule which accumulates !!

??
What is this shortcut?

Even if 1/1000 of the carbon formed thus accumulates in the earth,

Where does the number 1/1000 come from?
Oil formation takes place only under very specific conditions.
Why wouldn't it be 1/1000000000000?
That's why we have to estimate stocks.


Furthermore :
The more carbon in the air, the faster the plants grow.
Part of the co2 is dissociated by UV
Part of the co2 is dissolved in the oceans.

Maybe that should be quantified, right?

Besides, it cannot be denied that it was warmer in the year 900 than now ...

I do not deny that it is not hotter than in the year 900, or even that there is an increase in the rate of co2, or nothing at all.


I just ask myself the question of how is asserted:

but since we have fossil fuels in the earth accumulated over 600 million years, enough to burn all the oxygen in the air

And there I am far from having the answer.