Opinion on HHO kits (engine enriched with water and hydrogen)

Tips, advice and tips to lower your consumption, processes or inventions as unconventional engines: the Stirling engine, for example. Patents improving combustion: water injection plasma treatment, ionization of the fuel or oxidizer.
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by davio » 04/10/09, 20:35

Did you make the dailymotion video with the 205 kitée hho?
how many terminals have you done now?
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by francklompa » 04/10/09, 23:25

hi yes i put on my 205td
with 25 liters of diesel, I drive 620 km!

hho allows me to burn diesel better, in terms of yield I have more recovery I think !!

mounting hho would be more effective on new generation auto with lambda probe or we put an electronic box to adjust the level of fuel to inject, as in the USA and increase the injection of hho
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by rodibruno » 05/10/09, 05:05

nlc wrote:
davio wrote:Can a system like this powered by the car battery produce more energy than the alternator consumes?

No

davio wrote:apparently yes (if we believe what we read or see :?: : Shock: ), who has any figures?

Precisely, all those who say yes never show serious measures of electricity consumption versus gas flow.
However there is nothing simpler to make these measurements (see my site)


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by jonule » 06/10/09, 15:26

francklompa wrote:I'm not getting mad! I find null the people who criticize whereas they did not even try or seek to reflect in a more global way! we live in a world of lobbying it's not a fiction! So it is not in the interest of the State or the manufacturers that 60 million French people roll with water! Logical it will not bring anything in economic terms!
I drove only 150km, I would have to do Paris - Marseille to see consumption o :)

http://dotsub.com/view/19531e0f-6c6f-4c ... 14f7e49809


no no franck: it has been proven on this site "by flow measurement": in France it does not work!
It's certain !
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by davio » 06/10/09, 16:07

rodibruno, what are you talking about?

jonule, you say that in 4 100l of francklompa is pipo? These tests are the m ^ appariellage me?

A 205 td is 5 l per cent properly adjusted it seems to me ... it gets 20% less, (if it is 5l per cent; check)

Francklompa, And this using only the battery as a source of energy?

It intrigues me all that, but only imb .. do not change their mind and I ask only that! : Cheesy:
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by Yakah » 06/10/09, 23:45

For those who want to experience the hho here is a good address to get electronic circuits with square pulses: http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/cyber-circuits.htm
It is tested and functional, connected to a solar panel or a battery, it converts electrical energy into HHO gas (brown gas). This gas can be used as an alternative fuel, weld ...
RMCybernetics.com hardware test links, 10A max circuit:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaq4gh ... ments_tech
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaq4jo ... ction_tech
General applications:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xa0x62 ... ho-13_news
Welding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGz5X1hB3Nw&NR=1

Or how to produce homemade gas ...
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by elephant » 06/10/09, 23:55

Thank you, Yakah, but when is a good lab test or a double-blind test. Even JMM bailiff tests are questionable.
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by Yakah » 07/10/09, 00:14

a more detailed test will follow with the measurements at the output of the module, but I admit that my immediate problem is the stock shortage of multimeter DVM890 on econology : roll: suddenly I have not yet tested with supporting measures : Cheesy:

Next comes the 30A max pulsed circuit test from the rmcybernetics.com shop, with the measurements, finally normally. :)
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by pb2488 » 07/10/09, 07:04

francklompa wrote:I'm not getting mad! I find null the people who criticize whereas they did not even try or seek to reflect in a more global way! we live in a world of lobbying it's not a fiction! So it is not in the interest of the State or the manufacturers that 60 million French people roll with water! Logical it will not bring anything in economic terms!

????Is that so. I think it would be in the interest of the states: it would make it less dependent on something that there is not on the territory and I do not see why it would not bring anything in economic terms to the builders. ... ?????
Your conclusion is a bit quick and illogical ...
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by elephant » 07/10/09, 09:27

This subject annoys me a bit: if you had bothered to read the subject "improved electrolysis" (only 150 pages :D ), You would have noticed that we have reached no results with the available power on board: we remain in the field of measurement errors due to variations of driving, route, and temperature.

Until further notice, we believe that the injection of hydrogen in as small amount is hype: come back with a real test is successful, proven and reproducible, we will reopen the debate with enthusiasm

We do not even believe in the tests by a bailiff of Jean Marc Moreau, the bailiff not being able to determine if the vehicle was not discreetly fitted with "something else".

A real test can only be conducted with witnesses, double-blind: ie that the driver does not know if the electrolyser is connected and it is a third person to refuel, as if ignorant it's on

given the low consumption of 205, 2 a test X200 km, made in m ^ me weather conditions and traffic seems a minimum

to see if an electrolyser "gives good", there is the test of the overturned bottle:
take a bucket of water and a bottle of lemonade from the 1,5
fill the bottle, spilling into the bucket: the water must remain dedans.prendre the electrolyzer outlet pipe and measure the time it takes to fill the bottle.
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