EDVIGE, the return of the Stasi in France

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by gegyx » 20/09/08, 23:16

EDVIGE is dead, long live EDVIRSP!

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/actualit ... virsp.html

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A local police force, who teaches us to shut up…

: Shock: Common Police Violence By Patrick Mohr
http://reveilcitoyen.org/spip.php?article170

Details from JPP / The trial will take place on October 13, 2008 at 8:30 am at the Tribunal de Grande Instance, 2 Bd Limbert, Avignon. Anyone can attend this hearing. Just show up at the entrance to the room on time, carrying an identity document.
Remember: Lyon, 2005. One day all this will become commonplace, standard, thanks to Bling-Bling:

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid= ... 6661101795
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by gegyx » 24/09/08, 22:56

Just a very revealing info:

Democracy : Government, media, business leaders, all friends

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Well, we’re no longer talking about yesterday’s La Poste strike?

The ministry announced less than 25% at 8 o'clock in the morning. As if all the postal workers had hired before this time!…

At 20 p.m., Pujadas was still announcing ¼ of the striking postal workers. Here ! It was not updated?

It's still weird, while the previous poll announced 61% of French people against a modification of La Poste…

Today (the day after the day of strike), in my CCP the management shows 45,7%. This announcement is removed at the end of the morning.

It must be hard to leave this information visible to those who work this afternoon…

During another strike with a participation of 15%, the posting remained for 15 days…

The poster has been replaced by the announcement of the creation of a website to follow and support future changes at La Poste ...

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In the calculation of non-strikers on this day, are counted, workers + sick leave + leave + compensatory rest (overtime recovered) + progressive cessation of activity.

If we make the connection between strikers and people who actually come to work today, we arrive at 62%

All CCP in France exceed 60% of strikers.

And in the media we are still 1/4 of the postal workers!…

Are you starting to understand what propaganda and dictatorship is?

If employees make the effort to strike (only labor law to show their disagreement),
And that we mistreat reality to this point!

next time, what should we do to find out ???

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by C moa » 25/09/08, 00:15

Unfortunately I agree, but isn't it also partly the job of the unions to denounce this?
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by bham » 25/09/08, 09:26

Well seen gegyx but there have always been obviously different counting methods : Shock: concerning demonstrations, between police and demonstrators.
Can it be said with certainty that one or the other was right? If we are with the police, we will think that they are the ones who are telling the truth and vice versa with the demonstrators; so manipulation side it does not date from today.
And even if the unions can be indignant at such false information (see Cmoa), there is doubt, we can argue with an error, we can say what we want, it will not change much.

The fact that the panel displaying 45,7% did not remain indicates that there have been orders from the management and it has already been 2/3 years that things have moved at the Post Office; by my house, 2/3 years ago, they catapulted a carotene-colored catcher, clean on him, to clean up, quietly, without making too many waves, to degrease postal staff; the will has long been there to privatize. So they want to go smoothly by minimizing the importance of the strike, by making people doubt in any case.

What indeed to do so that this is known?
The only solution I see is a free and contradictory internet media which can provide evidence and which could establish itself as a reference. Because the most viewed or listened to media are 99% in control since they depend on a financial power itself dependent (or in interaction with) a political power.
Consequently, this interaction undermines democracy as we can imagine it.
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by C moa » 15/09/09, 11:44

I received this morning info

This is not the first time that the state has been in violation of this or that body (UN, ADIL in this case) so I am not surprised by this announcement.

What strikes me, however, is the answer:
- Why keep this information for 35 years if the objective is simply to know who should pick up the student at the end of school?
- In addition, the ministry replies [These data] "are not accessible to the rectorates or to the central administration." But they are accessible to "national education inspector in charge of district, academy inspector, director of departmental national education services". Do they not depend on the rectors? : Shock: Thanks to the specialists for clarifying if I am wrong.
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by Christophe » 05/09/11, 12:27

A law has just passed, much "worse" than edvige and in fairly general indifference, voted by 11 deputies ... democratic?

It's time to wake up right?

http://leplus.nouvelobs.com/contributio ... erale.html

All filed at 15: the law passed in general indifference

"For a better protected identity and a simpler life". What does the expression that Claude Guéant associate with the law on the protection of identity cover?

The entire French population over 15 will be documented and biometrized ... For a better protected identity and a simplified life, explained Claude Guéant: welcome to Big Brother.


Thursday began and ended, in the National Assembly, the discussion of the bill on the protection of identity, aimed at establishing identity cards with chips. It was previously adopted by the Senate at first reading in late May. And by the National Assembly on Thursday. Quietly, and in general indifference. 11 deputies (ONZE) were present. The protection of identity torments the deputy.

What is it about ? Filing of the entire French population over 15 years old. The whole, presented by our favorite Minister of the Interior. Pretext: identity theft. Method: biometric identity card, and centralization of data in a large file.

Why smart ID cards? Please note that the time is serious. Claude Guéant began his speech with impressive figures: 200.000 victims per year, more than burglaries and auto thefts. And 80.000 identity thefts annually. Well, we sometimes discuss the figures, admits Claude, but one thing is certain: it is expensive.

And that's not all (we don't accuse them of thinking only of money): fraud is also a trauma for the victim (anecdote to support it).
So 200.000 cases a year, and it's expensive, and the victims are traumatized. But what is the government doing?

Well, it biometrifies the identity card, good people.

Claude Guéant therefore presented the "sovereign chip" and the optional "dematerialized services chip", THE solution to the tragedy of identity theft. His speech to the Assembly was delivered in ordinary administrative language, before turning to the advertising slogan: "Two components", he sang to the 11 deputies who had made the trip, "for a better protected identity and a life simplified ". It lacks a little Toulouse-style music, like at the RATP, and the small logo like the General Council.

Depending on the project, there will be two chips in the digital identity cards. Of them.

The first chip is called "regal", and will contain the following information: surname and customary name, first names, sex, date and place of birth, domicile, size and color of eyes, fingerprints (eight fingers) and photograph of 'identity. All this information will be stored in a centralized database. Like those in the passport.

Régalienne, that sounds reassuring. "It will be necessary to give the prints of eight of his fingers by the technique of rolled prints and not posed. It is very different from that of the imprint placed because it is a criminological technique. We are no longer then in a process of recognition of identity, but in the logic of a criminal research file. There has been a shift. "(Serge Blisko)

The police and totalitarian nature of this measure is naturally overwhelming, since (you have to listen to the debates) a simple fingerprint will allow you to find the identity of a person.

Better still, the possibility of facial recognition of individuals, by coupling video surveillance devices and biometric data info, is looming on the horizon.

For SRC deputy Delphine Batho, it is clear: "The real objective of this text is the biometric registration of the entire population for the purposes of fighting crime". Sandrine Mazetier (SRC MP) shares her point of view. "This text clearly has a police objective. (...) It seems totally disproportionate to set up a general registration of the French population to fight against 15.000 acts of identity theft noted by the police."

But that's not all: in this official identity card, there will also be an optional "service" chip, making it possible to record "data allowing its holder to identify himself on the communication networks. electronic and to implement his electronic signature ".

What does a device for making purchases do on an identity card? How can the Interior Ministry lend a hand to commercial devices? The process, beyond its police applications, thrills: citizens become above all consumers, and the Ministry of the Interior recognizes a function of guaranteeing commercial transactions.

The coexistence, in a single piece of identity, of devices for documenting the population and securing means of payment, opens the door to a terrifying future: a totalitarian society of consumers, indexed, flicked, identified, monitored.

And it is this device which was voted on Thursday, by 11 deputies present, on the sly, in general indifference. "For a better protected identity and a simpler life".

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by dedeleco » 05/09/11, 16:29

This is the continuation of Naomi Klein's shock strategy !!
Scare to justify controlling everything !!

It is useless, the prisons overflow and therefore the penalties poorly applied are no longer scary and we join the USA in this madness of delinquency !!!

French you voted badly, only 11 deputies !!!
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