EDVIGE, the return of the Stasi in France

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by I Citro » 11/09/08, 13:31

Christine wrote: So here is my conclusion: of course I am against a systematic filing of citizens on more than questionable criteria.
Seulement this system is an exact reflection of what has become of our society and of what we practice every day: the discrimination which dares not admit, the suspicion based on a reducing identity not in conformity with ours. EDVIGE: we are all responsible for it.


I share your opinion in every way. : Arrowu:
That said, this system is a reflection of the society that our rulers imposed on us
For example, in 1995, to be re-elected, Mr. CHIRAC signed an agreement with Mr. LE PEN in order to remove the socialist candidate from a second round that Mr. CHIRAC would have lost. To do this, he oriented his campaign on security and during the campaign we conditioned the French on this theme with in particular a small old attacked assaulted and whose house had been burned by thugs as well as cars burned heavily.
The thugs attacking the old man were members of the FN and the car burners were members of the RG. It was a GR agent who told me ...

Currently, our president (friend of TOM CRUISE, representative of the Church of Scientology) is in the process of cleaning up the French law of 1905 on secularism. 2 objectives meet this approach:
Give funding to what many consider to be sects ... to control them and create multitudes of communities whose goal is to have a hold on our "conscience".
The goal is then to be able to pit the communities against each other thus responding to the principle: divide and rule.
At the national level, this stems from concepts developed at the world level and aimed at opposing races and religions in order to satisfy "imperialist" aims. I would talk about it again ...
On this subject I attended an exciting conference on secularism organized by PRS.
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by bham » 11/09/08, 13:42

Christine wrote:
So here is my conclusion: of course I am against a systematic filing of citizens on more than questionable criteria.
Seulement this system is an exact reflection of what has become of our society and of what we practice every day: the discrimination which dares not admit, the suspicion based on a reducing identity not in conformity with ours. EDVIGE: we are all responsible for it.


Yes, but it is not up to the authorities to relay this discrimination; the state must remain neutral, that's why we have a secular society.
I just heard from the news:
... since September 11, 2001, a security policy has become part of the customs ...
with the illustration in France of surveillance cameras (3000 today) which will be multiplied by 3, military presence on tourist places in the capital, ... etc, etc.
-Who really thinks that such a security policy can avoid a possible attack?
-Who really thinks that the West is really in danger, from a terrorist point of view?

If 11/09/2001 is really a US coup, see all that follows: useless wars (like Obama said that Iraq was not a danger, unlike Afghanistan ... hum!) for the control of geographic areas and energy, systematic internal copying, biometric passports that the US imposed and which are now applied in France to better control people (I'm not sure that it can avoid any attack) .
All this makes us think of a media hype leading people to think that they are in danger, which reinforces patriotism and discrimination, and also makes us think of a manipulation of peoples to increase the power of leaders, ie that is locked gradually, we gradually restrict; for what :?:
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by Christophe » 11/09/08, 13:43

1984
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by bham » 11/09/08, 13:47

citro wrote:
I share your opinion in every way. : Arrowu:
That said, this system is a reflection of the society that our rulers imposed on us
The thugs attacking the old man were members of the FN and the car burners were members of the RG. It was a GR agent who told me ...

: Shock: : Shock: : Shock: : Evil: and there is not a comedian or an elected official who will sell the wick to spread it out in the public square :?: :?:

citro wrote: The goal is then to be able to pit the communities against each other thus responding to the principle: divide and rule.
At the national level, this stems from concepts developed at the world level and aimed at opposing races and religions in order to satisfy "imperialist" aims. Maybe I'll talk about it again ...
On this subject I attended an exciting conference on secularism organized by PRS.

I see that we think the same citro with the difference that you seem to know more than me.
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by bham » 11/09/08, 13:51

Christophe wrote:1984

uh :?: :?: :?:
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by renaud67 » 11/09/08, 13:53

bham wrote:
Christophe wrote:1984

uh :?: :?: :?:

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by bham » 11/09/08, 14:45

Christophe wrote:
bham wrote:KEZAKO a whois?


Who Is in english = Who is it?
It allows you to have information on a domain name.
Just type it on a whois site like for example: www.whois.ws
All webmasters are therefore on file: address, email and telephone ...


Ah thank you would sleep less stupid.
Thanks also to Renaud 67 for Orwell
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by I Citro » 11/09/08, 17:42

bham wrote:
citro wrote: The goal is then to be able to pit the communities against each other thus responding to the principle: divide and rule.
At the national level, this stems from concepts developed at the world level and aimed at opposing races and religions in order to satisfy "imperialist" aims. Maybe I'll talk about it again ...
On this subject I attended an exciting conference on secularism organized by PRS.

I see that we think the same citro with the difference that you seem to know more than me.


Well not that much, I don't watch or listen to all the interesting shows that go on late at night, don't read all the books that interest me, or go to all the informative conferences ... work, a family, friends and in addition I tinker ... :|
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by bham » 12/09/08, 08:36

Christophe wrote: Otherwise you have looked at the Crossword? http://mots-croises.france2.fr/46140707-fr.php

I can't download it for backup! It freezes at around 90% ... kk1 please try?


SAME FOR ME :?:
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by toto65 » 12/09/08, 18:09

I watched it in full. And I found it very interesting. In short, it is a takeover of our country. A dispossession of our freedoms.
It's incredible.
we restrict little by little; for what

1-I would say in order to control the population.
2-Control to avoid revolts.
3-Keep the leaders in power.

But one question is not yet settled, why should people revolt? For now, everything is okay.

PS: the file blocks for me too. I can't see the end.

Very interesting thank you again.
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