Hello
I just found out what forum which is really very interesting, but also very very vast and it is not easy for a beginner in the field to find understandable info.
Also I allow myself to ask a question which may have already been, but for which I have not found a clear answer ...
Here is what brings me here: I have a 30 kva diesel generator that runs 24/24 and 7/7 (power supply from an isolated site). It consumes a lot of diesel, more than 100 L / day and I wondered if it was possible to
- replace the fuel with another simple oil type, or something else?
- In what proportion?
- Are there any problems relating to the ignition of the group (the day it runs out of gas for example, and we want to restart it)?
- How can we very simply improve the group's performance? It is in full sun, and I thought to myself that in the shade it would consume less right? Other tips to limit consumption?
- Is the diesel consumption of the group a function of the power called or is it constant? If I reduce the consumption of my equipment, will the group consume less diesel?
Here you are, thanks in advance for your responses
Group electrogene 30 kva to gazoil: saving ideas?
for the oil you start at 5% then you climb slowly. Me in my space pump bosh and direct injection I go up to 50% without problem and in the scenic it is 30% max. Must see the type of pump, the brand ... Go take a look on oliomobile.org for more info.
The oil is collected in a good restaurant which does not reuse it too much so then it is filtered at 25 microns then 5 microns and 1 micron in "brico depot" filters traditionally used on water pipes at home.
The oil is collected in a good restaurant which does not reuse it too much so then it is filtered at 25 microns then 5 microns and 1 micron in "brico depot" filters traditionally used on water pipes at home.
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Thank you for your answers.
I have not yet seen the group, but it will be done soon, and I will keep you posted on these specifics.
For oil, it is indeed an economical solution but can we not turn almost 100%?
In any case I imagine that at 10 - 20% oil, no modification is to be made on the engine, I make the mixture in the tank and that's it?
Besides, I was wrong, my group is turned off every evening and turned on every morning, because it makes too much noise for the night (batteries take over at night).
I have not yet seen the group, but it will be done soon, and I will keep you posted on these specifics.
For oil, it is indeed an economical solution but can we not turn almost 100%?
In any case I imagine that at 10 - 20% oil, no modification is to be made on the engine, I make the mixture in the tank and that's it?
Besides, I was wrong, my group is turned off every evening and turned on every morning, because it makes too much noise for the night (batteries take over at night).
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Certainly, there are many questions to be asked for such a power.
if the engine is more than 10 or 15 years old and if it has a good old mechanical injection pump, it is certain that it consumes too much and that a pantone would help it to pollute less.
Management-specific questions may arise: what does it fuel? Wouldn't better consumption planning make it possible to use a smaller group, therefore with a better yield, at certain times? Saving 10 liters per day pays off a small group in one year
could not some productions go to pure thermal solar? (domestic hot water, including for the washing machine (s), dishes, etc.)
the fact that it is a little hot does not pose in my opinion that a little problem: diesel engines consume less in summer, but we can maybe put the radiator in the shade (which could maybe also contribute to ECS)
if the engine is more than 10 or 15 years old and if it has a good old mechanical injection pump, it is certain that it consumes too much and that a pantone would help it to pollute less.
Management-specific questions may arise: what does it fuel? Wouldn't better consumption planning make it possible to use a smaller group, therefore with a better yield, at certain times? Saving 10 liters per day pays off a small group in one year
could not some productions go to pure thermal solar? (domestic hot water, including for the washing machine (s), dishes, etc.)
the fact that it is a little hot does not pose in my opinion that a little problem: diesel engines consume less in summer, but we can maybe put the radiator in the shade (which could maybe also contribute to ECS)
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Here is some additional information to help you think about it: the group supplies a telecommunications site, roughly batteries, electronic equipment and air conditioners.
At night, the equipment is powered by batteries. During the day, the group recharges the batteries and supplies the equipment
At night, the equipment is powered by batteries. During the day, the group recharges the batteries and supplies the equipment
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Are there inhabitants?
With us or in tropical countries
Have we already made a general consumption measurement for telecom equipment + their air conditioners (essential in these latitudes)
Another important detail: some installers neglect to mount the air conditioners in the shade. Do not hesitate to give them a small roof, preferably white.
With us or in tropical countries
Have we already made a general consumption measurement for telecom equipment + their air conditioners (essential in these latitudes)
Another important detail: some installers neglect to mount the air conditioners in the shade. Do not hesitate to give them a small roof, preferably white.
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elephant Supreme Honorary éconologue PCQ ..... I'm too cautious, not rich enough and too lazy to really save the CO2! http://www.caroloo.be
Hello,
the simplest: start on 30% oil, and if it is stable hot, cAd set off to last, make a bicarbruation system: change the tank (return hoses) with simple mechanical ball valves, to switch to 100 % oil ! or 90% if you freak out but there are no reasons, if the mechanics are in good condition (a little cleaning is required).
to stop the group, switch to fuel 30% oil.
what T ° C does it do when you start the band?
yes, the cooling water can be used because it is an important part of the yield.
the simplest: start on 30% oil, and if it is stable hot, cAd set off to last, make a bicarbruation system: change the tank (return hoses) with simple mechanical ball valves, to switch to 100 % oil ! or 90% if you freak out but there are no reasons, if the mechanics are in good condition (a little cleaning is required).
to stop the group, switch to fuel 30% oil.
what T ° C does it do when you start the band?
yes, the cooling water can be used because it is an important part of the yield.
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