GDP, growth and ecology: why is it blocking?

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by ENERC » 20/04/20, 19:22

If we base ourselves solely on GDP to revive the post-coronavirus economy this will be a huge mistake ...

Quite clever who can say how the world will be in 12 months.
In fact we don't know anything about it: if the borders remain closed for a year, if we have a maximum of one person every 1,5 m in restaurants, cafes, and bars, if schools teach a week on 2, if you have to wear a mask all day at work, wait 45 min to get into the super market, let 10 buses pass by while you have the right number of people, that the nightclubs are closed, that the football is played without spectators, etc, etc.
We hold a month, two months, maybe 6 months but beyond ???

By force the human will tire. We are going to abandon this economy of debt and GDP to refocus on what matters: LIVING.
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by Flytox » 28/04/20, 12:07

The French are busy with the Covid19, never mind, it's time for the government to leave petroleum jelly exceptional measures on the sly ...


: 10 NGOs seize the Council of State urgently
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In recent days, the France Nature Environment NGO has been increasing press releases to alert them to the increase in environmental damage. Along with 9 other NGOs, she seized the Council of State concerning the spreading of pesticides near homes.

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Until June, spraying pesticides near homes facilitated
According to the FNE, the government would take advantage of the containment to pass projects in force
What are the associations of the collective?

Until June, spraying pesticides near homes facilitated

In February 2020, a group of 9 NGOs had already filed an appeal before the Council of State against the decree defining the protective distances for spreading, considered ridiculously low in view of the danger to health represented by pesticides.

Today, a collective of 10 NGOs are filing a new appeal. She accuses the government of taking advantage of the coronavirus epidemic to force projects through, as well as a halving of the safety distances regarding spreading.

It is a press release from the Ministry of Agriculture dated March 30, 2020 which has finished igniting the powder. The NGO collective was already exasperated by the signing of the technical instruction of February 3, 2020, aimed at "strengthening the protection of residents likely to be exposed to plant protection products".

An instruction taken jointly by the Ministry of ecological and solidarity transition, the Ministry of solidarity and health, the Ministry of agriculture and food and by the Ministry of economy and finance.
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Under the cover of “protection of local residents”, the instruction authorizes derogations making it possible to bypass the consultation process and in addition to the obligation to respect areas without treatment in the absence of charters.

Usually, the consultation process and the content of the Charters must be approved by the prefects. But because of the instruction of February 3 and the press release of March 30, 2020, according to France Nature Environment, there is now “no need for consultations around charters, nor prefectural approvals: it is enough from a simple draft charter to be able to spray toxic products at even shorter distances from the dwellings and residents who are confined to it, and this until the end of June, period during which the spreading is numerous. ”

According to the FNE, the government would take advantage of the containment to pass projects in force

In its press release of April 23, France Nature Environnement protested. According to the NGO, the government is limited to online public consultations to be able to validate consensual projects:

the construction of a road in the Allier, “a 25 year old project which suddenly becomes urgent”,
an oil-fired power plant in the mangroves of French Guiana.
the decision of the Ministry of Agriculture to allow farmers to spread pesticides even closer to homes, without waiting for consultation,
the installation of new telephone relay antennas, without consultation, with a possibility of perpetuating them thereafter, facilitated by an “emergency” order.

What are the associations of the collective?

Here are the associations that are part of the collective that filed an appeal before the Council of State:

Physician alert on pesticides
Western Pesticide Victims Collective
Collective of victims of HdF pesticides
GMO vigilance collective 16
France Nature Environment
Future generations
Bird protection league
solidarity
UFC-Que Choisir
Water and Rivers of Brittany

sources:

France Nature Environnement (Founded in 1968, France Nature Environnement is the French federation of associations for the protection of nature and the environment, spokesperson for 3500 associations.)

The complete file of the appeal on the site of the NGO Générations Futures

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by GuyGadebois » 28/04/20, 13:54

This is the paradigm shift. On the one hand, Macron's announcements "to rethink the future for a better future", on the other hand: regression and cronyism like never before. : Evil:
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by Ahmed » 28/04/20, 17:10

This is called an interface (between the financial powers and the voters) ...
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by GuyGadebois » 28/04/20, 21:24

Ahmed wrote:This is called an interface (between the financial powers and the voters) ...

I call it "an interfesse", without petroleum jelly. : Mrgreen:
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by Nico37 » 11/10/20, 23:04

1 GB of conferences and presentations to download: https://amubox.univ-amu.fr/s/6AfoHMkgxq ... onférences
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by thibr » 16/12/20, 20:41

models ... : Shock:

Problem of the episode:
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In 1972, "The limits to growth" came out, a book in which three scientists from MIT warned the world of the probable consequences of human development based on productivism on a planet with finite resources. The book becomes a best seller and a reference for all aficionados of the theory of collapse. That said, neoclassical economists - and notably 2018 Nobel laureate William Nordhaus - have widely criticized the (World3) model used by researchers at MIT. Nordhaus has also created a "world" model called DICE which aims to integrate the issue of global warming into economic models for predicting growth.
The idea of ​​the video is to show how two sciences - system dynamics and neoclassical economics - construct very complex models in an attempt to predict the future of humanity. To put these two approaches in parallel seemed very interesting to me because, if for the researchers at MIT, economic growth is the fundamental cause of the risk of collapse, it is on the contrary the ultimate solution to all problems - global warming or otherwise. - for economists.
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