The legend of vaccine protection against serious covid forms is called into question!

[pedrodelavega]

And if you go to the hospital for a broken leg but by chance you test positive, you are indeed hospitalized, but not for a covid cause, however you still find yourself counted in the “covid cases” thanks to the “covid bonus” of €30.

It's crazy math...!

And are more people breaking a leg among the unvaccinated vs the vaccinated?

Who cares, that's not the issue.

It seems to me that if:

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If the reason for the hospit/100000 gap between non vax and vax, these are broken legs counted in covid (or other causes, I understood the logic), it is that there are a lot more broken legs among the non vax.

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

No Vegaz, since these figures are distorted by those who are forced into the name "unvaccinated". Are you really stupid or are you forcing yourself? (This question calls for no answer)

[SixK]

And if you go to the hospital for a broken leg but by chance you test positive, you are indeed hospitalized, but not for a covid cause, however you still find yourself counted in the “covid cases” thanks to the “covid bonus” of €30.

It's crazy math...!

And are more people breaking a leg among the unvaccinated vs the vaccinated?

reported out of 100, yes.

As a reminder, if we take France, with large roundings,
the inverse of the representativeness of the non-vaccinated and triple dose groups (I don't know if this is the right expression)
is the following :
60 / 000 = 000 for unvaccinated
60 / 000 = 000 for triple doses

therefore for the same number of people in hospital between vaccinated and unvaccinated, reported as 100 or 000 million, the unvaccinated represent 10 times more.

If you take the figures present under the curve, we are not very far from that:
1087.83 / 156.49 = 6.9
41.77 / 4.74 = 8.8
5 / 0.74 = 6.75

Can I say anything?
Why would the non-vaccinated, being less numerous, not be proportionally less numerous (in quantity) in the hospital?
But well here it is...

[sicetaitsimple]

No Vegaz, since these figures are distorted by those who are forced into the name "unvaccinated".

Who are these people there? Do you have examples?

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

No Vegaz, since these figures are distorted by those who are forced into the name "unvaccinated".

Who are these people there? Do you have examples?

Yes why ? Do you know Kiki, we've been talking about this up and down for a while right here? It would even seem that this history of approval of the vaccine pass has further inflated the false figures. But I am bad language.

[Obamot]

But that's frankly not the problem, the vaccinator who enters the hospital with a broken leg will not be declared a "covid case" since there is no need to give a "covid bonus" to a vaccinated person (and with a vaccination pass, it does not even say that it is “tested”)

Because the hospital services in the event of a "covid case" they have to disinfect everything from A to Z, so they can't take it anymore and don't do it anymore for the vaccinated it's too heavy to manage, I'm told that the the other night the on-call doctor only had "covid cases", he couldn't take it anymore...

You have to stop falling under the manipulations of these perverts, they don't give a damn about the debate, what interests them is harm. Contradict to contradict.

[pedrodelavega]

the inverse of the representativeness of the non-vaccinated and triple dose groups (I don't know if this is the right expression)
is the following :
60 / 000 = 000 for unvaccinated
60 / 000 = 000 for triple doses

therefore for the same number of people in hospital between vaccinated and unvaccinated, reported as 100 or 000 million, the unvaccinated represent 10 times more.

If you take the figures present under the curve, we are not very far from that:
1087.83 / 156.49 = 6.9
41.77 / 4.74 = 8.8
5 / 0.74 = 6.75

Can I say anything?

I do not know. I don't understand your calculation.
you do: "total population" divided by "vax population" and "total population" divided by "non-vax population".
But I don't see where it leads.

It seems to me that you have to do:
"number of vax population hospitals" divided by "total vax population" X 100000
and "number of hospitals among the non-vax population" divided by "total non-vax population" X 100000
(and brought back by age group, because if the average age is not the same in the 2 groups, it's bias!)

[sicetaitsimple]

It would even seem that this history of approval of the vaccine pass has further inflated the false figures. But I am bad language.

If you want to talk about "false pass" vaccines, it would rather go in the opposite direction to the one you indicate, it would rather be unvaccinated people who declare themselves vaccinated, and therefore it would tend to inflate the percentage of hospitalization of "vaccinated people". ".
So “the figures are distorted by those who are forced into the name “unvaccinated”, blah.
A non-vaccinated declared as such "by force", I don't really see who it can be....

[izentrop]

Sixk, stop worrying about calculations, there are specialists who do it much better

With Omicron, unvaccinated young people have very little "chance" of having a serious form, but if they are vaccinated they still have less chance of ending up in hospital and having a long covid...

An unvaccinated young person has a little more than 1% risk of being hospitalized if they catch Omicron (it was almost 3% with Delta). With a complete vaccination schedule with booster, the risk is divided by 5 and it drops to 0,2%, for example. Another way to measure the impact of vaccination is to look at hospitalization rates.
In mid-January, there were more than 1 hospital admissions of Covid patients aged 100 to 20 and not vaccinated every day, compared to 39 admissions of young patients vaccinated without a booster and 130 admissions of patients who had also received a booster dose.

https://www.msn.com/fr-fr/lifestyle/tru ... d=msedgntp

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

A non-vaccinated declared as such "by force", I don't really see who it can be....

Therein lies the problem.