"Well done" to some organic farmers!

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Re: "Well done" to some organic farmers!




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 02/08/21, 13:00

izentrop wrote:Let's say the price justifies practices that appeal to customers

No. You don't know anything about it. : roll:
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by Biobomb » 02/08/21, 23:36

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Someone who with his cookie-cutter formulas has stigmatized agriculture to the public.

The Burgundians are not charlatans anyway.
His lab, these are not formulas that have made him credible around the world. And to pay attention, to sound an alarm bell, it is not to stigmatize, it is to inform.
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by izentrop » 03/08/21, 00:31

Biobombe wrote:
izentrop wrote:Someone who with his cookie-cutter formulas has stigmatized agriculture to the public.

The Burgundians are not charlatans anyway.
His lab, these are not formulas that have made him credible around the world. And to pay attention, to sound an alarm bell, it is not to stigmatize, it is to inform.
I thought of his speeches without nuance still on youtube very well decrypted here https://lagricultureetautreschosesdelavie.fr/?p=151
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 03/08/21, 00:38

Regarding certain subjects, including this one to which you do not understand anything, it is true that you give in the nuance. A nuance of the inquisition type ...
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by Janic » 03/08/21, 07:27

especially since the girl holds a reassuring speech without nuance either. If Bourguignon speaks of dead soil, he means that in those examined there is no life, not that the entire earth has dead soil. The nuance therefore does not stifle it any more, even if it does not really dispute the reality of abused soils, exhausted by conventional and industrial cultivation.
But the funny ones are not in the shade either! And even less organic zizy!
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by Moindreffor » 03/08/21, 20:58

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:This topic is NOT intended to stigmatize organic farmers. At all. It is a question of denouncing practices, which when they are abusive (whatever they are), expose (in excess) the populations to TOXIC products, whether natural or synthetic. However, it turns out that not everyone in the organic sector (industrial or not) has a light hand on copper. It's a fact, that's all.

very good remark

except that copper is the only solution that can be used organically, agro-chemistry aptly named it has moved on, synthetic products, perhaps not harmless either, no one is perfect

When a large organization publishes its results, the organic bigots howl at conspiracy and connivance, when people can in a jar and have it analyzed to denounce glyphosate, they applaud this large, highly scientific study, just to replace the debate

making the choice between a natural product toxic for the soil which accumulates and has accumulated, and even by reducing the doses, it will be necessary to evacuate the stock, and a synthetic product that some say toxic or potentially toxic is a personal choice , but you have to know how to accept reality

to shine a light on this reality, can not be harmful indeed, it's to your credit Guy
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 03/08/21, 22:36

Moindreffor wrote:except that copper is the only solution that can be used organically ....

Interesting!
http://agriliens.fr/les-fiches-experien ... -au-cuivre
And very level-headed, down-to-earth and honest.
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by izentrop » 04/08/21, 01:05

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:
Moindreffor wrote:except that copper is the only solution that can be used organically ....
Interesting!
http://agriliens.fr/les-fiches-experien ... -au-cuivre
And very level-headed, down-to-earth and honest.
but not effective :(
To date, no alternative tested alone, that is to say without copper, has an effectiveness similar to copper in the event of medium or high pressure.
Moindreffor wrote:agro-chemistry, aptly named, has moved on to something else, synthetic products, perhaps not trivial either, no one is perfect
Not harmless like any drug, but if the material is well isolated and concentrated, it is easier to dose and manage the undesirable effects than a fashionable essential oil, the effects of which on the environment cannot be managed. of all the molecules it composes.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 04/08/21, 01:10

izentrop wrote:but not effective :(
Nowadays, no alternative tested alone, that is to say without copper, has an efficiency similar to copper in case of pressure medium or strong.

Do you want a text explanation or do you have enough neurons left to understand this sentence which is quite simple? : roll:
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by izentrop » 04/08/21, 01:14

Only at low pressure! OK but in this case holy water also works Image
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