The global covid vaccination of the population is useless against death (except to promote the creation of variants?)

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Re: Global covid vaccination of the population is useless against death (except to promote the creation of variant




by izentrop » 21/12/21, 02:33

It is not obligatory for 5-11 year olds in France either, nor should it be dramatized.
On the other hand, I know close families whose children were the vectors of transmission.
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Re: Global covid vaccination of the population is useless against death (except to promote the creation of variant




by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 21/12/21, 02:42

izentrop wrote:1: It is not compulsory for 5-11 year olds in France either, neither should it be dramatized.
2: On the other hand, I know close families whose children were the vectors of transmission.

1: Yes, of course, there is no pressure, "we are free".
2: And how do they know that it was their offspring who infected them and not the cashier at the local grocery store, the butcher or the hardware store ???
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by Janic » 21/12/21, 09:26

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2: And how do they know that it was their offspring who infected them and not the cashier at the local grocery store, the butcher or the hardware store ???
or the doctor, the nurse, the pharmacist, the firefighter, who does the tests, etc ...
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by Rajqawee » 21/12/21, 09:34

The "wet finger" test, without a doubt.
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by ABC2019 » 21/12/21, 10:03

Rajqawee wrote:The "wet finger" test, without a doubt.

It can be quite easy to know where we have been infected: personally 3 days before the first symptoms I was in contact with a hundred people and there were ten cases in the group, while in other people that I had approached in the previous 5 days (under less contaminating conditions), there were no cases. This is not 100% proof of course, it is still a very strong presumption.
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by Rajqawee » 21/12/21, 10:05

ABC2019 wrote:
Rajqawee wrote:The "wet finger" test, without a doubt.

It can be quite easy to know where we have been infected: personally 3 days before the first symptoms I was in contact with a hundred people and there were ten cases in the group, while in other people that I had approached in the previous 5 days (under less contaminating conditions), there were no cases. This is not 100% proof of course, it is still a very strong presumption.


Even though there are asymptomatic contaminants? Let's go good.
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by ABC2019 » 21/12/21, 10:10

Rajqawee wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:
Rajqawee wrote:The "wet finger" test, without a doubt.

It can be quite easy to know where we have been infected: personally 3 days before the first symptoms I was in contact with a hundred people and there were ten cases in the group, while in other people that I had approached in the previous 5 days (under less contaminating conditions), there were no cases. This is not 100% proof of course, it is still a very strong presumption.


Even though there are asymptomatic contaminants? Let's go good.

that's why I'm saying it's not 100% proof. If I had been contaminated elsewhere by a non-contaminating asymptomatic, it would have had to infect only me, and no one else, or other aysmptomatics. It is not impossible, it is just much more improbable than the fact that I was contaminated where there was 10% of contaminated of which a high proportion symptomatic.

Want a little free training in Bayesian inferences? :)

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inférence_bayésienne
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Re: Global covid vaccination of the population is useless against death (except to promote the creation of variant




by izentrop » 21/12/21, 10:52

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:
izentrop wrote:1: It is not compulsory for 5-11 year olds in France either, neither should it be dramatized.
2: On the other hand, I know close families whose children were the vectors of transmission.

1: Yes, of course, there is no pressure, "we are free".
2: And how do they know that it was their offspring who infected them and not the cashier at the local grocery store, the butcher or the hardware store ???

Such a level of denial, that you have not yet understood that the main contaminations were by aerosol, over time for a sufficient viral load, without a mask, indoors with poor ventilation in relation to the concentration or proximity of people and mainly by unvaccinated ... : roll:

At the start of the first wave, a Korean specialist was already saying this.
It even happened without contact between people, for people confined to hotel rooms and boat cabins, via the common ventilation.
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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 21/12/21, 12:06

Yeah, so you don't know ... and neither do they. : Wink:
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Re: Global covid vaccination of the population is useless against death (except to promote the creation of variant




by Christophe » 21/12/21, 13:19

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:2: And how do they know that it was their offspring who infected them and not the cashier at the local grocery store, the butcher or the hardware store ???


The cashier, the butcher and the hardware store (it still exists?), We can have intimate relationships with ... which increases the risks ...

Ah sorry, "them" with the children also they can! : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen: : Mrgreen:
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