ABC2019 wrote:well even if you protected all the people with comorbidities, you would have the remaining 20% .. except that nothing prevents then that the number of cases continues to climb and multiply this number by 5 !! why do without 20% additional protection, if the risk of the vaccine is almost zero?
Well, uh, it actually is. This is what I just said. These people just don't go to the hospital much, if not statistically at all. So, vaccinated or not, it will have no impact on hospitalizations.
ABC2019 wrote:it is 2% of the number of admissions, but not occupied beds given the length of stay of hospitalized patients. On the other hand
* it is heterogeneous in space
* it is heterogeneous over time
* this was precisely achieved with unprecedented containment measures to AVOID congestion in hospitals. It is completely dishonest to take the pretext that it did not go too badly, to imply that it was not worth doing it! It's as if you were piling in a car to avoid a child and your passenger was telling you that it was not worth it to crash since you had avoided it!
So, in fact, the average length of stay of the covid is 13, X days. This is pretty much what we usually see in geriatrics (given the age of covid patients ...)
If you want the stat (for the OLS field), it's 2,4million days out of 69million, so 3,4%. Well, that doesn't change much.
It would still be necessary to prove that the said measures had some effect on the hospitalization of people. I imagine you have some supporting data:
- impact of the health pass on hospitalizations
- impact of the curfew on hospitalizations
- impact of confinements on hospitalizations
Because what I give you is always from the ATIH report. This report is great.
ABC2019 wrote:no that would be the case if they were rational but obviously they are not, so must be - unfortunately - a little more restrictive, insofar as their behaviors impose a cost on the whole society.
Again, counter psychology: what do you know about people's motivations for choosing care? On the other hand, you are right, the result is there: many people for whom the risk benefit is probably enormous do not get vaccinated. This strategy is therefore a big failure. People are dying of it. What a bunch of big nazes this government!