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by Janic » 04/08/21, 10:35

abcon
what kills is not the vaccine, it is the virus.
of course, it is the virus transmitted by the vaccine. It is not new your evidence! : Shock:
get out of your bubble, see the world as it is, on the ground and not hidden behind your computer!
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by Obamot » 04/08/21, 10:43

Except you do the duck! Image

You strive not to want to give the death threshold per 1 inhabitants from which to stop vaccinations!
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by ABC2019 » 04/08/21, 10:52

Obamot wrote:Except you do the duck! Image

You strive not to want to give the death threshold per 1 inhabitants from which to stop vaccinations!

given the case fatality rate which seems to be around 0,5%, we should stop if the vaccines cause more than 5 deaths per 1000 vaccinated - let's even say 1 death per 1000 vaccinated - we are obviously very very far.
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by ABC2019 » 04/08/21, 10:53

Janic wrote:abcon
what kills is not the vaccine, it is the virus.
of course, it is the virus transmitted by the vaccine. It is not new your evidence! : Shock:

the peaks of mortality in Sweden occurred BEFORE the start of vaccinations, and vaccinations show no excess mortality. You still say anything as usual
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by Obamot » 04/08/21, 10:59

This guy is crazy, ã 1 / 1'000, so it would take 200'000 dead to stop the vaccinations !?

What contempt for a simple and clear question, as he himself had wanted to word it ...

One month 'ofaccess denied”Otherwise never understand that we must stop taking us for marbles!

We need dissuasive penalties.
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by Janic » 04/08/21, 11:00

given the case fatality rate which seems to be around 0,5%, we should stop if the vaccines cause more than 5 deaths per 1000 vaccinated - let's even say 1 death per 1000 vaccinated - we are obviously very very far.
but it climbs at all speeds if we take into account all those who are not recognized by pharmacovigilance, as the case (among many others) cited.
Last but not least, the aim of vaccines is to theoretically avoid deaths, not to induce them as little as possible.
I doubt that in the lines of naives forced to the vaccine, they are told that their risk of dying is so great.
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by ABC2019 » 04/08/21, 11:05

Obamot wrote:What contempt for a simple and clear question, as he himself had wanted to word it ...

I'm just saying Janic is telling nonsense, because Janic is telling nonsense. It was not the vaccines that produced the peaks in mortality in Sweden, they had happened before.
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by ABC2019 » 04/08/21, 11:07

Janic wrote:Last but not least, the aim of vaccines is to theoretically avoid deaths, not to induce them as little as possible.

that is not a cost benefit analysis. The goal is to avoid many more deaths than it causes. It is not to cause "as little as possible" deaths. I think there is a fundamental flaw in understanding the problem from the start with you.
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by Obamot » 04/08/21, 11:08

I do not know for which country but some sources clearly say the opposite ...

And instead of making all your assertions, you had better be careful and wait until May 2021 for a first post vaccination assessment ...!
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by ABC2019 » 04/08/21, 11:10

Obamot wrote:I do not know for which country but some sources clearly say the opposite ...

And instead of making all your assertions, you had better be careful and wait until May 2021 for a first post vaccination assessment ...!

instead of making all your assertions, give your sources then, instead of saying anything. I showed you the excess mortality curves for Norway where there was no covid wave but a massive vaccination, where is the excess mortality? or what protects Norway from the effects of the vaccine? smoked salmon?
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