Covid vaccines: how effective? Variants, duration of immunity, efficacy on contamination and on severe cases?

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by GuyGadeboisTheBack » 20/12/21, 20:56

Obamot wrote:I told you, ask ...

Well no, I'm asking you. I have never read from Raymond or Blachier that the vaccine had killed hundreds of thousands. But I could be wrong.
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by ABC2019 » 21/12/21, 06:20

Christophe wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:yes that's it, and 30% of accidents are due to alcohol, which means 70% are due to sober people, so SOBER PEOPLE HAVE MORE ACCIDENTS THAN ALCOHOLICS

So not drinking while driving is killing !!

Thank you goodbye.


Sophism and fraudulent comparison (but we're used to it with you): accidents involving substances (alcohol or others) are much more serious and / or fatal than others ...

I just apply your method, I count the number of deaths under alcohol and without alcohol, and there are more without alcohol than with alcohol.

Obviously this is a fallacy and a fraudulent comparison, like the one you did with the vaccinated !! and for the same reason:

contaminations for the unvaccinated are much more serious and / or fatal than the others ...
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by ABC2019 » 21/12/21, 06:24

GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:So not drinking while driving is killing !!

What a bitch, what a con, what a shit, what a truffle, etc, etc, etc ... : Evil: : Evil: : Evil:

glad to see that you despise those who make bogus reasoning, it was obviously to show how wrong it was to compare the absolute number of vaccinated and unvaccinated deaths.

So those who make this reasoning are bitches, idiots, pennies, truffles ...
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by ABC2019 » 21/12/21, 06:42

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Thank you, you confirm thatwith 63% of vaccinated deaths for 48% of vaccinated hospitalizations, the vaccinated DIE MORE in the hospital than the unvaccinated!

So the vaccine does indeed kill!

Thank you goodbye !

and to answer the precise point on the difference in proportion between hospitalized and death, that does not mean that the vaccine "kills", in the sense that the vaccinated die more, it is obvious that they die LESS compared to their population: this means that those who are hospitalized are in a more serious condition than those who are not vaccinated. Either it can be due to admission criteria (we tend more easily to hospitalize an unvaccinated one), but it can also be for example that the vaccinated hospitalized are more often immunocompromised in whom the vaccine did not work, therefore they also die more often. But obviously, unvaccinated, there would be many more.
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by Janic » 21/12/21, 08:07

abcon
and to answer the precise point on the difference in proportion between hospitalized and death, that does not mean that the vaccine "kills", in the sense that the vaccinated die more, it is obvious that they die LESS compared to their population: this means that those who are hospitalized are in a more serious condition than those who are not vaccinated. Is it may be to admission criteria (we will tend more easily to hospitalize an unvaccinated one) [*], but it could also be, for example, that hospitalized vaccines are more often immunocompromised in whom the vaccine did not work, so they die also more often. But obviously, unvaccinated, there would be many more.
and super moron has struck again. Everything you have just written for the vaccinated is valid for the unvaccinated. With your stupid reasoning (that's obvious!) but it can also be for example that the hospitalized NON vaccinated are more often immunocompromised and other comorbidities in which the vaccine would not work, etc ... Unbridled imagination of the narcissist! Stop cannabis mixed with GHB!
[*] This is the pearl of bouzo bullshit!
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by ABC2019 » 21/12/21, 08:13

Janic wrote:abcon
and to answer the precise point on the difference in proportion between hospitalized and death, that does not mean that the vaccine "kills", in the sense that the vaccinated die more, it is obvious that they die LESS compared to their population: this means that those who are hospitalized are in a more serious condition than those who are not vaccinated. Is it may be to admission criteria (we will tend more easily to hospitalize an unvaccinated one) [*], but it could also be, for example, that hospitalized vaccines are more often immunocompromised in whom the vaccine did not work, so they die also more often. But obviously, unvaccinated, there would be many more.
and super moron has struck again. Everything you have just written for the vaccinated is valid for the unvaccinated. With your stupid reasoning (that's obvious!) [I] but it can also be, for example, that hospitalized UNVaccinated people are more often immunocompromised and other comorbidities in which the vaccine would not work,

no, the unvaccinated hospitalized are not more often immunocompromised than the vaccinated, it is precisely the opposite, and that is not the reverse. Because the immunocompromised are much less protected by vaccines. You haven't figured it out yet, moron, obviously this kind of consideration far exceeds your intellectual capacities, so I don't quite understand why you keep making fun of yourself by writing anything in every post.
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by Janic » 21/12/21, 08:36

abcon
no, the unvaccinated hospitalized are not more often immunocompromised than the vaccinated, it is precisely the opposite, and that is not the reverse. Because the immunocompromised are much less protected by vaccines.
Obviously they are less well protected since they are not protected at all, it is in the medical literature, before this domination of BP and its impunity, that the most fragile individuals should not be vaccinated.
In addition, it is the mainstream "scientists" who say that the most at risk are those with comorbidities and the fragile like the immunocompromised, will tell them that they are failing miserably just to te prove it, POV sucks!
You haven't figured it out yet, moron, obviously this kind of consideration far exceeds your intellectual capacities, so I don't quite understand why you keep making fun of yourself by writing anything in every post.
You haven't understood anything yet, asshole, obviously this kind of consideration far exceeds your intellectual capacities, so I don't quite understand why you keep making fun of yourself in writing anything in every post. Open at least one medical biology book! : Evil:
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by ABC2019 » 21/12/21, 08:38

but yes Janic, but yes ... : roll:
We are in a psychotic delirium there, nothing to do.
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by Janic » 21/12/21, 09:05

ABCon» 21/12/21, 09:38

but yes Janic, but yes ... : roll:
We are in a psychotic delirium there, nothing to do.
but yes abcile but yes ... : roll:
You are in the psychotic and narcissistic delirium there, nothing to do. since the time we tell you, repeat it and prove it!
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by Obamot » 21/12/21, 09:48

ABC2019 wrote:
Janic wrote:abcon
and to answer the precise point on the difference in proportion between hospitalized and death, that does not mean that the vaccine "kills", in the sense that the vaccinated die more, it is obvious that they die LESS compared to their population: this means that those who are hospitalized are in a more serious condition than those who are not vaccinated. Is it may be to admission criteria (we will tend more easily to hospitalize an unvaccinated one) [*], but it could also be, for example, that hospitalized vaccines are more often immunocompromised in whom the vaccine did not work, so they die also more often. But obviously, unvaccinated, there would be many more.
and super moron has struck again. Everything you have just written for the vaccinated is valid for the unvaccinated. With your stupid reasoning (that's obvious!) [I] but it can also be, for example, that hospitalized UNVaccinated people are more often immunocompromised and other comorbidities in which the vaccine would not work,

no, hospitalized unvaccinated people are not more often immunocompromised than vaccinated people,
Proof / s?
Connections ?

ABC2019 wrote:Because the immunocompromised are much less protected by vaccines.
Proof / s?
Connections ?


Otherwise => trash
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