Nuclear VS fossil fuels VS Solar .... Who wins?

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Re: Nuclear VS fossil fuels VS Solar .... Who wins?




by Janic » 25/10/22, 08:14

24/10/22, 20:33
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The difference is only that instead of directly polluting the atmosphere, your nuclear first pollutes the soil for thousands, millions of years before rising in the open air.

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for simpleton who does not care what will happen to our successors in thousands or millions of years .... after doing the same for our current generations, but worse, big beta!
PS; that's the funny people who don't have children, and don't give a damn about what may happen to them soon, as long as they keep their little selfish comfort!
Janic wrote:
stupid reasoning, my simpleton pov; it's as if decades ago a zigoto like you had said that coal (and later fuel oil) provided us with 70% of the electricity consumed. Think a little before you say that kind of nonsense.
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Ah, because nuclear power hasn't provided you with around 40% of the electricity you consume for about 70 years? You don't live in France? Or are you isolated from the network, with a generator? Tell us everything....
like wood, coal previously, then fuel oil, much more widespread and used than a few atomic power stations (again and always for military purposes), funny at first and running out of intelligent arguments.
PS: For my consumption, I am satisfied with the 30% in question!
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Re: Nuclear VS fossil fuels VS Solar .... Who wins?




by NCSH » 30/10/22, 10:10

Don't worry, even in France, the nuclear industry, despite all its support, will have trouble keeping its dominant position in electricity production: with 14 EPRs in the pipeline + Flamanville, that will only be 25 GW, i.e. hardly more than 25 to 30% of the electricity produced in France in 2050/2060.
And again, if all goes as planned.
The remaining 70 to 75% will be renewable, eliminating this "global anomaly" of 75% of Nuclear from 1990 to now, which no country has imitated.

The cause is known: the drop in the cost of producing electricity from renewable sources, which is not yet finished.
Here are the averages for the past decade that the IRENA databases allow to present with nice graphs.

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Electricity Cost Evolution Decade 2010-2020
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Despite a lack of differentiation by geographical area, which would highlight an even lower cost of photovoltaics in the tropics, the trend is downward, it's a real groundswell!
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