Advances in the fight against the coronavirus

[izentrop]

Did you miss the weekend post?

It just confirms what the previous link said: integration into the genome of cells, but not for messenger RNA

[Christophe]

Oh so it's okay?

[Janic]

zizi the irrational!

[ABC2019]

like most viruses actually, but that's how evolution works. But for the modification to work it is necessary
a) it affects germ cells, otherwise it will not be passed on to your offspring.
b) it has a beneficial effect, otherwise the carriers will be quickly eliminated. It is of course unfortunate for the sick but it is

Retroviruses like HIV, not sure for coronaviruses.

From what I understood, retroviruses have a systematic mechanism of retrotranscription of RNA into DNA by a specific enzyme, reverse transcriptase. But there are enzymes in the body that can occasionally do this for non-retrovirus viruses as well, although this is exceptional it can happen.

B) is wrong. The DNA of the virus in the inactive area of ​​the genome can become active for the offspring.

the fact that COVID can modify human genetic makeup!

Irrational

it remains true anyway, by definition disadvantaged individuals are eliminated - it can even be taken as a definition of what "disadvantaged" means;).

[Christophe]

zizi the irrational!

Please do not enter the Sorbite

[ABC2019]

a good article on the subject:

https://tanialouis.fr/2020/12/27/le-com ... arisation/

We cannot afford to say that messenger RNAs in vaccines cannot modify DNA. Because it is false and that, inevitably, people wary of vaccines will find sources explaining that it is false. This will undermine their confidence in vaccines AND in extension workers. It would be a loser on the whole line.

So let's say the truth: yes, the messenger RNAs of vaccines can modify the DNA of the cells in which they enter. It is extremely rare, but it is possible.

We cannot afford to stop there because it would create mistrust of vaccines based on an erroneous view of reality. But we cannot afford to go into details of molecular biology which would lose part of the public when, in this specific case, we want to address the widest possible population.

That's good, the next question to be addressed is not "how could these messenger RNAs modify our DNA?" "," Can we avoid it? Or "is this DNA change likely to be serious?" ".

The heart of the matter is the benefit / risk balance of these vaccines, against a virus that circulates very efficiently in the population and that everyone is therefore at risk of catching. The only valid question is: "is this risk of DNA modification greater with the vaccine than with the virus?" ".

[izentrop]

B) is wrong. The DNA of the virus in the inactive area of ​​the genome can become active for the offspring.
Christophe wrote:
the fact that COVID can modify human genetic makeup!
Irrational

it still remains true, by definition disadvantaged individuals are eliminated - it can even be taken as a definition of what "disadvantaged" means;

It is clear that a cell which has burst after having produced a quantity of virions is not going to keep the heritage of the virus. Only little affected stem cells can present this risk.

[Obamot]

like most viruses actually, but that's how evolution works. But for the modification to work it is necessary
a) it affects germ cells, otherwise it will not be passed on to your offspring.
b) it has a beneficial effect, otherwise the carriers will be quickly eliminated. It is of course unfortunate for the sick but it is

Retroviruses like HIV, not sure for coronaviruses.

From what I understood, retroviruses have a systematic mechanism of retrotranscription of RNA into DNA by a specific enzyme, reverse transcriptase. But there are enzymes in the body that can occasionally do this for non-retrovirus viruses as well, although this is exceptional it can happen.

"Exceptional”How many occurrences per million? And “nature” makes “mistakes” doesn't it?

there are 200 million billion potentially contaminating viruses. Using the word “exceptional” in this context is delusional!

Delirious because it suffices that it only succeeds once and only once, for the human genome to be forever modified (and potentially leading all of humanity to its destruction, we know absolutely nothing ... )

Delirious because in the current context of the “experiment” which continues, we already know that they lied about the side effects, since they jumped 6'000% in the USA, without this not appearing in phase II (which would not be possible in such proportions)

And where your delirium is total, it is that you (and the “funny ones”) supported to the point near “that we needed randomized double-blind studies, against placebo and all the fuss”For a molecule that does not harm anyone, but there you are ready to sacrifice the human species by taking all the risks without any control of an independent study and without any verifiable data. You are a real public danger.

[ABC2019]

Delirious because it suffices that it only succeeds once and only once, for the human genome to be forever modified (and potentially leading all of humanity to its destruction, we know absolutely nothing ... )

well no, this is where the natural selection mechanism is effective! if the mutation "could lead humanity to its destruction", it is because it would be deleterious for the individuals carrying it, and therefore they will be disadvantaged for reproduction and the mutation will be finally eliminated.

It is not the first virus that infects humanity, and even less living species, and once again living things have resisted viruses as a whole very well!

[Obamot]

We won't be for 3 generations .... And that was true for “natural” viruses. There we don't know damn anything.

Answer boat therefore, you were extremely picky with the HCQ and the almost slab. Stop smoking ...

So, how many times out of 200 million billion would “exceptional” be?