The world's largest palm oil plantation project threatens the last Indonesian forests

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Re: The world's largest palm oil plantation project threatens the last Indonesian forests




by ABC2019 » 11/04/20, 14:51

GuyGadebois wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:but the question you quoted came from another subject ...

So what ? : roll:

and then it does not mean anything to give up the industrial civilization "as regards this kind of project", you renounce it completely or not. In addition, you do not ask yourself the question of what palm oil is for ...
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Re: The world's largest palm oil plantation project threatens the last Indonesian forests




by GuyGadebois » 11/04/20, 15:13

ABC2019 wrote:and then it does not mean anything to give up the industrial civilization "as regards this kind of project", you renounce it completely or not. In addition, you do not ask yourself the question of what palm oil is for ...

Go out for some fresh air, you need it ... : roll:
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Re: The world's largest palm oil plantation project threatens the last Indonesian forests




by ENERC » 11/04/20, 17:45

I am not sure that palm oil has a sustainable future.
Consumers no longer want them in cakes.
Diesel sales are collapsing, for example in France:
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Total can hope to refuel its refined palm oil on planes if traffic really resumes one day :D

[For the 8,16% of electric in January 2020, it is not the normal cruising speed which is rather between 2 and 3% excluding rechargeable hybrid].
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Re: The world's largest palm oil plantation project threatens the last Indonesian forests




by sicetaitsimple » 11/04/20, 18:16

ENERC wrote:I am not sure that palm oil has a sustainable future.
Consumers no longer want them in cakes.
Diesel sales are collapsing, for example in France:


Unless there is a boycott (which could possibly happen), the development of biofuels (including biogas) in France is only a story of taxes, or rather of tax exemption.
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Re: The world's largest palm oil plantation project threatens the last Indonesian forests




by ABC2019 » 11/04/20, 18:19

ENERC wrote:I am not sure that palm oil has a sustainable future.
Consumers no longer want them in cakes.

if you ignore it, it is the most widely used edible fat in southern countries, and the yield of oil palms is the greatest per hectare. It means that if you want to replace it with something else, you will have to deforest even more.
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Re: The world's largest palm oil plantation project threatens the last Indonesian forests




by ENERC » 11/04/20, 19:09

if you ignore it, it is the most widely used edible fat in southern countries, and the yield of oil palms is the greatest per hectare. It means that if you want to replace it with something else, you will have to deforest even more.

Right, we have a distorted vision in France:
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Unfortunately this story will end with a parasite that will destroy everything. We will have lost the primary forest and the palm trees.
And yet there is no shortage of examples: olive, date palm. If the red palm weevil (or another) mutates and attacks these palm trees, it's going to be a mega disaster.
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Re: The world's largest palm oil plantation project threatens the last Indonesian forests




by sicetaitsimple » 11/04/20, 19:24

Millions, not thousands, for the legend of the graph presented.
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Re: The world's largest palm oil plantation project threatens the last Indonesian forests




by ENERC » 11/04/20, 21:15

sicetaitsimple wrote:Millions, not thousands, for the legend of the graph presented.

Well seen!
I had seen this graph on several sites and they copied the graph with the wrong scale. Coming from Statistica, the error is big, but the text is correct:
According to the latest data from the United States Department of Agriculture, annual global palm oil consumption exceeded the 70 million metric ton threshold in 2018/19, more than double the number of twelve years. As our infographic shows, its consumption as edible oil predominates worldwide and still accounts for almost 70% of total consumption.

https://fr.statista.com/infographie/195 ... par-usage/
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