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Re: Outstanding intellectuals




by Ahmed » 31/03/20, 10:25

Let's be a bit serious and examine this appellation of intellectual "extraordinary" attributed to Raoult (and to the initiator of this thread, in stride! :P ). He is undoubtedly recognized as a "size" in his field, which has visibly influenced his ego (unless it is the opposite effect, I could not comment on this point), to the point of appearing everywhere where we want him well and display his personal convictions in areas where he is no more relevant than the slightest quidam. Thus, for a long time, he has held a column in the weekly "Le point", where he succeeds Claude Allègre, for the benefit of the same theses and always without any competence to do so ...
Finally, he falls into this category provided with right-wing intellectuals (in the broadest sense of the term) who strive to defend a societal model that is outdated because it is sealed from reality and who, to do this, use this reciprocal tropism that brings newspapers , microphones and cameras and everyone who enjoys any media aura.
This obviously does not invalidate the possible interest of the therapy he offers (subject to inventory), but shows the limits of the character as much as the recovery attempt that makes it here, in the name of a foul-smelling ideology .
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Re: Outstanding intellectuals




by GuyGadebois » 31/03/20, 13:22

Ahmed wrote:the recovery attempt that EST made here, in the name of a foul-smelling ideology.

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What more can you expect from a Tryphon (he has almost become an archetype of deviation)?
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Re: Outstanding intellectuals




by Ahmed » 31/03/20, 14:45

We look forward to seeing you! Guy, for having rectified my unfortunate shell! : Oops:
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by Exnihiloest » 31/03/20, 22:46

Ahmed wrote:Let's be a bit serious and examine this appellation of intellectual "extraordinary" attributed to Raoult (and to the initiator of this thread, in stride! :P ). He is undoubtedly recognized as a "size" in his field, which has visibly influenced his ego (unless it is the opposite effect, I cannot comment on this point),

Interesting note, in parentheses. The desire for recognition is indeed a powerful motivation for individual acts. And when it is added to the natural one of obtaining operational results in the treatment of patients, we may have the right mixture for success.

to the point of showing off wherever we want him and to display his personal convictions in areas where he is no more relevant than the slightest quidam. Thus, for a long time, he has held a column in the weekly "Le point", where he succeeds Claude Allègre, for the benefit of the same theses and always without any competence to do so ...

You are going too fast. Intellectuals spend time studying, thinking about and rethinking subjects, and just because you have a specialty does not make you relevant to other subjects.
See Onfray, Deleuze, Serres and many others, they are generalists and it is precisely because their view is much more encompassing than that of a specialist who will often limit themselves to his specialty, that they enlighten us.
But a specialist too can get out of his specialty, and when he is a scientist who observes other scientific fields, he already has the bases shared by all sciences, such as the method, and the right frame of mind, skepticism . Of course it may be relevant, and in particular Raoult, whose professional career is far from being limited to a lab job. Or let's also condemn Hubert Reeves when he talks about ecology, since he is an astrophysicist!
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Re: Outstanding intellectuals




by Ahmed » 31/03/20, 23:09

I do not assert that having a specialty leads to an inability to make a judgment, good or bad in general visions, since precisely they are only clarified by transversality: I denounce the fact that it is not that when you acquire some fame in a specialty that it becomes possible to express yourself publicly, which leads to the manifest abuses that I notice. This explains the mediocrity of many current books, since the condition of their success is reversed: you must be known beforehand, if possible on TV, to be able to publish, whatever the content ... or find compliant microphones.
In addition, considering the heavy responsibilities and the sharpness of the skills of Raoult, the fact that he perhaps rests from time to time, I would be surprised if he could devote a lot of energy to studying general questions (this is what is often criticized for "specialists ")
Furthermore, transversality is a matter of opinion and cannot pass an intrinsic judgment on what is in the field of other specialties; on the other hand, being intellectual should not be a profession or a privilege, but concern everyone ... Why should some be able to think for others? It is only a reflection of the general functioning of society which should be freed from, because of the contradiction that this implies.
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by Exnihiloest » 09/04/20, 21:30

If he obviously has advanced skills in his technical field, he also has media activity that did not start with the coronavirus, but regular columns in newspapers or magazines. All of this indicates that his interests are not limited, that he is working there, and a book like "Let's Stop Being Afraid" is a sign of this as well.

As for your considerations on "being intellectual should not be a profession or a privilege, but concern everyone ... Why some would be able to think for others", nobody says that it is a profession or a privilege . It is above all a question of competence and motivation, the result of which will be made public and will be endorsed by the recognition of others, thereby creating "the intellectual". The intellectual does not think for others, he shows paths of thought, unexplored by most people. He opens doors.
In the same way that not everyone can participate in the cycling tour de France, question of level, not everyone has the skills to think correctly. I am not talking about "what to think", free in everyone. What to think cannot be learned. But "how to think", yes, if we want to avoid errors of logic, fallacies, errors of reasoning and if we want to achieve clarity, relevance and accessible understandability. The rest is a question of innate, culture and adequacy of his words with his contemporaries and the time. Not everyone is capable of this communication, although everyone is supposed to know how to think. Some have a plus, and even a big plus compared to others, so you might as well take advantage of it.
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Re: Outstanding intellectuals




by Grelinette » 09/04/20, 21:43

He may not be an intellectual, although the criteria should be defined, but the character is extraordinary and very endearing:
https://youtu.be/MR7f8EBhNFc
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Re: Outstanding intellectuals




by Exnihiloest » 11/04/20, 17:21

Michel Onfray, on Pr Raoult:

"It is therefore preceded by these dumpers of insults that in Martinique, with the jet lag, one morning very early I received a message from a Franco-Lebanese journalist friend who asked me if she could give my telephone numbers to Professor Raoult. [...]

It was quite surreal to converse with this man whom the world press sought and who found time for a philosophical conversation. I imagined it crumbling under planetary solicitations and we were talking about ... Nietzsche. Gay Knowledge was like a revelation to him. So we had this in common to discover around the age of fifteen a genealogical thought - as well genealogical of a civilization, a culture as of a personal and private life. The true philosopher is not the one who cites a great figure in the history of ideas as he would invoke a sculpture by Verrocchio, a painting by El Greco (this man moreover accuses the rising flame of the Greek…) or a work by Spinoza . He is the one who, after reading a work no longer lives the same life as before: Le Gai Savoir can indeed change the life of who has just read it.
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What Professor Raoult retained from Nietzsche is its golden core: a method. We must wash Nietzsche of the leftist reading carried out by the deconstructionists à la Deleuze and Guattari, à la Foucault also, who confused the reading that Nietzsche carries out of truth, a sum of perspectives, with the negation of all truth. "
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Professor Raoult asks me if I know a sentence from Husserl that he is quoting to me - I do not know it. It basically says that the truth is hiding and that it hides above all the essential which remains hidden. Nietzsche's shadow hangs over this discussion between two times shifted by the chronometer. The conversation ends. The silence that follows this conversation is still our conversation. It rustles and dances as if near an apiary. Everyone goes back to their hives ... "
https://michelonfray.com/interventions- ... professeur

Like what, Ahmed, as I said, it turns out that Raoult is not just a narrow specialist in his field.
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by GuyGadebois » 11/04/20, 17:41

Opposite are the Parisians, the academicians à la Lambron, snobbish as a provincial high school student when he has more than three times exceeded the age, the inenarable Cohn-Bendit, that his past as a pedophile should definitely remove from all antenna but which, in the sluggish and crude style that has been his for half a century, asks the professor to "shut his mouth".
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It is from the same world that comes Patrick Cohen, multi-card journalist of Maastrichtian nationalism and who recently spoke of a "vestjaunisation of the health crisis" on the set of "C'est à vous" (March 25). It is therefore in a public service program that Patrick Cohen lambasted those who were wrong to believe that this crisis was poorly managed by Macronian power ...

It is also Michel Cymes who, after having announced that he would go with a simple grippette with this coronavirus, gives today lessons in a broadcast of the public service where he is, notwithstanding his imperitie, presented as referent in the matter… The same Cymes tackles the professor; It is true that, flanked by Adriana Karembeu who brings her the intellectual and medical guarantee that she lacks, the fake funny can meanwhile go to the cashier with its multiple priced activities.

Let us not forget Alain Duhamel, Maastrichtian columnist at Liberation, a progressive newspaper who believes that the unsurpassable sexual horizon today consists of copulating with animals and eating feces (the pedophile, that was before ...), for whom Professor Raoult is "a nonconformist of the establishment a little psychically unbalanced" ... It takes hatred to allow such a judgment which concerns the most intimate of a being and to treat him quite simply as mad as in the good old days of the Soviet Union which psychiatricized all critical thinking.

Finally, the rotten icing on the power cake, it is also necessary to reckon with the services of the newspaper Le Monde ("Vichy evening newspaper" said de Gaulle in the fifties) which investigates on March 28 a conspiracy trial - once, they should have had the Inquisition trial, the witches' stake, the Revolutionary Tribunal and other jurisdictions where the goal is to kill first and then to educate. These journalists must confuse Professor Raoult with the conspirators, the far-right, the National Rally, the radical left, the Russians, the Trumpians, the climate-skeptics, anti-Semitism, and, of course. , in yellow vests. Adolf Hitler's friends aren't there, but that's because Le Monde probably won't have managed to reach them ...

When we see all the enemies of this man we frankly want to be his friend…

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by ABC2019 » 11/04/20, 18:16

and apart from his lyrical prose, he knows what a statistically significant test means, Michel Onfray?

because if Raoult wants to do philosophy or theater, nobody will blame him. The problem is just when he claims to be doing science. And I know doctors who are neither famous nor Parisian, but who think of him that we are on the verge of criminal sanction.
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