Bullshit and idiocy around the Coronavirus (actions, words, decisions ...)
Re: Bullshit and idiocy around the Coronavirus (actions, words, decisions ...)
indeed what imbecility to vaccinate against polio! Tomorrow they will invent a vaccine against bad weather, droughts, but not against the bullshit they are showing!
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Re: Bullshit and idiocy around the Coronavirus (actions, words, decisions ...)
izentrop wrote:
This doctor is a frenzied provax undoubtedly fed with $$$ bigpharma.
That being said, because it blows my mind, some useful information:
The viruses detected in London, in the waste water, are type 2 polioviruses: that is to say "vaccine derivatives which, on rare occasions, can cause serious illness, such as paralysis, in people who are not fully vaccinated." In other words, your doctor has it all wrong with his anti-anti-vax prose, since a priori, the carriers who dropped this thing while shitting in the London gogues, are vaccinated with a live oral poliomyelitis vaccine ( OPV).
Of the 116 positive samples taken only a few are polioviruses mutated VDPV2, the others are of the vaccine type and therefore harmless.
There are no cases of polio.
The risk exists although very low, which will allow, as a precautionary principle for the government, to enrich a supplier of vax by launching a new vaccination campaign against polio.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/poli ... ast-london
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Re: Bullshit and idiocy around the Coronavirus (actions, words, decisions ...)
... butrobob wrote:The risk exists although very low
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/all- ... io-vaccineDr Vanessa Saliba, consultant epidemiologist at UKHSA, said:
No cases of poliomyelitis have been reported and for the majority of the population, which is fully immunized, the risk is low. But we know that the areas of London where poliovirus is transmitted have some of the lowest vaccination rates. This is why the virus is spreading in these communities and putting residents who are not fully vaccinated at increased risk.
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izentrop wrote:... butrobob wrote:The risk exists although very lowhttps://www.gov.uk/government/news/all- ... io-vaccineDr Vanessa Saliba, consultant epidemiologist at UKHSA, said:
No cases of poliomyelitis have been reported and for the majority of the population, which is fully immunized, the risk is low. But we know that the areas of London where poliovirus is transmitted have some of the lowest vaccination rates. This is why the virus is spreading in these communities and putting residents who are not fully vaccinated at increased risk.
It doesn't change the facts:
The current spread in London is of a virus coming exclusively from people vaccinated against polio with a shitty vaccine. So the antivax have nothing to do with it: on the contrary, if we had listened to them earlier, we wouldn't have this problem. In short, your Dr. Franc Clarot is an idiot who would do better to revise this knowledge and above all to close his valve.
Here the declaration of the "Polio" committee of the WHO:
https://reliefweb-int.translate.goog/re ... x_tr_hl=fr
Wild poliovirus:
Afghanistan?
Pakistan 10 cases
Malawi and Mozambique: 2 neighboring cases
Vaccine-derived polioviruses
Afghanistan Benin Burkina Faso Cameroon CAR Chad Côte d'Ivoire DR Congo Djibouti Egypt Eritrea Ethiopia Gambia Ghana Guinea Guinea Bissau Liberia Mauritania Mozambique Niger Nigeria Pakistan Senegal Sierra Leone Somalia South Sudan Togo Uganda Ukraine Yemen China Iran Kenya Mali Tajikistan.
To which you can add the Western countries which have begun to carry out waste water tests such as the UK and the USA.
In short, the WHO is mainly trying to fix its vaccine bullshit since the main distribution is that of live attenuated viruses from the oral OPV vaccine which can mutate. This mutation causes the same effect as the wild virus.
"In addition to allowing the circulation of wild polioviruses, low vaccination coverage can sometimes be the cause of poliomyelitis epidemics of a new type which have been identified in several countries since 2000: the natural transmission of the vaccine strains contained in OPV to unvaccinated children can, if it lasts for several months, favor the genetic drift of the vaccine strains which thus recover a pathogenic character.The vaccine strains that have become pathogenic again are then responsible for paralysis identical to that induced by the wild strains. "
https://www.pasteur.fr/fr/centre-medica ... liomyelite
The Pasteur Institute moderates the extent of the damage above: "low vaccination coverage", "sometimes", "if it lasts several months". Just read the report above to understand.
And what are we fighting at the moment in London? against this derived virus spotted in a hundred samples, so some have mutated...
We are therefore obliged to vaccinate against polio with IPV to stem a galloping epidemic of attenuated viruses resulting from the WHO's frenzied vaccination of poor countries with the oral OPV vaccine! Why ? Because the attenuated virus can mutate and "de-attenuate".
But don't worry, as the Pasteur Institute says:
"The forthcoming use of a new OPV with the same advantages as the original OPV but containing much more genetically stable attenuated strains should make it possible to limit the risk of reversion of the vaccine strains."
A fine example of the long-term risk of distributing vaccines other than inactivated viruses. (If you see what I'm boiling.)
A good example also of the generalized propaganda in the media which is panicked by these detections of polio without ever explaining the causes but by stigmatizing once again the non-vaccinated populations.
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Re: Bullshit and idiocy around the Coronavirus (actions, words, decisions ...)
It's just one strategy that has achieved near eradication of wild poliovirus from poor communities...robob wrote:The current spread in London is that of a virus coming exclusively from people vaccinated against polio with a shitty vaccine. So the antivax have nothing to do with it: on the contrary, if we had listened to them earlier, we wouldn't have this problem. In short, your Dr. Franc Clarot is an idiot who would do better to revise this knowledge and above all to close his valve.
It was antivax that contributed to VDPV mutating into a risky form
https://polioeradication.org/wp-content ... cinale.pdfHow do circulating vaccine-derived polioviruses arise?
The oral poliomyelitis vaccine (OPV), which has made it possible to achieve the virtual eradication of
wild poliovirus has many advantages: live attenuated (weakened) vaccine virus
provides better immunity in the intestines, where poliovirus reproduces. The vaccine virus is
also excreted in the feces, and in communities where sanitation is poor
poor quality, it means that it can spread from person to person and because of this
help protect the community.
However, in communities where vaccination rates are low, when the virus
spreads from one unvaccinated child to another over a long period of time (often 12 to
around 18 months), it can mutate and take a form that can lead to paralysis while
such as wild poliovirus. This mutated poliovirus can then spread to
communities, leading to circulating vaccine-derived polioviruses (cVDPVs).
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Re: Bullshit and idiocy around the Coronavirus (actions, words, decisions ...)
another joker who never left his lab to check on the spot.
Whatever the technique used, the introduction of a poison into an organism has the same effect: attacking it and weakening the immune system, and this has been verified since Jenner and Pasteur. No vaccine has ever proven effective in the field!
Whatever the technique used, the introduction of a poison into an organism has the same effect: attacking it and weakening the immune system, and this has been verified since Jenner and Pasteur. No vaccine has ever proven effective in the field!
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Re: Bullshit and idiocy around the Coronavirus (actions, words, decisions ...)
small best of delfraissy
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Re: Bullshit and idiocy around the Coronavirus (actions, words, decisions ...)
The far-right troublemakers still freewheeling:
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Re: Bullshit and idiocy around the Coronavirus (actions, words, decisions ...)
start by learning French...
troubled him the troublemaker.
troubled him the troublemaker.
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