Did67 wrote:I agree on the fact that the announcement of the measures was "contaminated" by the management of a double or triple shortage: tests, masks and emergency situation ...
We were able to "manage" a few "clusters" (Contamines, Morbihan), but I will be stubborn, a few gatherings (Evangelists in Mulhouse, probably the Lyon-Turin match, maybe others) made this very quickly " tactic "was no longer playable, and outbreaks have flourished everywhere (in particular Oise, various departments in the East) ... Identify and" confine "the contact persons, that is fine if there are 3 or 4 outbreaks (not to say "cluster"). It's rapped when there are 100 ...
To my understanding, the normal mask prevents you from projecting droplets towards another person. If you are a "healthy carrier" (if not, you should be confined). So I find it exaggerated to say that it is ineffective. It seems to me a barrier measure like any other.
It does not protect the wearer if another person "projects" infected particles ...
The FFP2 also protects the wearer.
Now, still if I understood correctly, a significant (essential ????) part of contamination is through contact: handles, elevator buttons, public transport bars, payment terminals (CB). A contaminated person (possibly a healthy carrier - so who ignores it) is likely to have viruses on his hand (no matter how much he coughs in his elbow, he will touch the sweater, etc.), so put it on the handles , buttons, mailbox ...
So to have an effectiveness equivalent to confinement, it would be necessary to wear ordinary masks so as not to "project" but also all the time to disinfect what several people touch ...
Still if I understand correctly ...
With survival times of the virus (which does not mean infectivity) variable depending on the media, but can be a few days (all this with enormous uncertainty)!
[NB: abuse of language, since a virus does not really "live"; it does not have its own metabolism; the question is therefore whether it can still contaminate or not - and that ???? Volunteers to try ????]
Not a simple equation, in my case, where I would like not to be contaminated (carrying 3 risk factors) but where my wife works in a nursing home ...
Yes this is the mask must be worn by everyone for its effectiveness to be maximum.
Even if ... in the case of postilions of a person not masked on a mask one can think that the protection is not zero at least in the first ... seconds? minutes? hours? I don't know that.
And it is precisely when one is a little overwhelmed by the epidemic that the mask can reduce the rate of spread.
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It will be strongly recommended or even mandatory at the time of deconfinement to try to do what we did not do at the beginning, i.e. SMOOTH as much as possible (as is exactly the case for the flu which, until proven on the contrary, causes between 2 and 3 times more death without problem of particular congestion of the resuscitation services) the contaminations which are WELL INTENDED to continue up to a level it seems from 50 to 70% of the population d 'after what I could read (before we are in the bazaar, but weirdly we don't say anymore now) .... which is CONSIDERABLE ...
What is unfortunate is that the wearing of the "mask" could not be advised to everyone from the start as well as other collective prophylaxis measures: hand washing, social distancing.
Guand I put mask between quotes it is to signify any type of protection covering mouth and nose.
All this because of elements having nothing to do with the heart of the subject.
And not even because of the shortage in itself but because of its consequence: to affirm that the masks (most of the nose / mouth protections) plays a non-negligible role in reducing the spread of the virus was to cantilevered with respect to thousands of withdrawal rights
justified.
There the official discourse was based on the minimum of the only thing that the vast majority of employers could provide: the freeze dot bar.
And the barrier measures of course.
But for me the two camps of the social partners are to be put in the same bag.
It would have required a global agreement which freezes the rights of withdrawal in exchange for wearing a nose / mouth protection even unorthodox.
As for the transmission component, it is also done through contact with infected surfaces.
But for the hands, the remedy is much easier to put into practice: do not touch your face and wash your hands as often as you have touched “foreign” surfaces.
In conclusion we are going to wear a mask in public and wash our hands again for a while.
