The dictatorship against pollution and climate change?

[Exnihiloest]

victim of infamous leftists ...

Is that so? Aren't we fascists on the right?

Fascists of right or left it is kif-kif on the result, you must close your mouth and submit to the ideology of power.
And that's the idea behind your actions.

Communism, anti-capitalist, has failed because it is a negation of the human. Environmentalism is its reborn version, also a negation of the human, debased, made responsible for all evils in the face of a deformed Nature. It's going to spoil us a generation before it collapses.

[GuyGadebois]

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Say, you're not tired of selling filth all day long?

[Exnihiloest]

And the funniest thing about this communism for a bright future without capitalism is that the communist response to the lack of enthusiasm at work has been Stakhanovism; communism has done worse than capitalism!
What is the environmentalism that intends to replace it going to offer worse? The suspense is intense.

[sen-no-sen]

See the title of the subject: "dictatorship". It is in this spirit that I use the term "fascism" with its current meaning. The subtle differences between Stalin or Mao and Hitler, I do not see the need for them since in fact, the processes and the effects are the same: deprivation of liberty and millions of deaths. I judge by facts and deeds, not by intentions, with which hell is paved.

The problem is that the term fascism is often used as a traumatic argument whose path is as follows:fascist = negationist = nazi... the objective being to silence are interlocutor by this terrible comparison.
Besides a quality debate must be based on objectivity, and only on this one.
It is therefore very important to determine the terms precisely and to avoid abuse of languages.

With "The only thing related to environmentalism and fascism is its romantic anticapitalism, nothing more", you are in the watered down. This anti-capitalist is one of the most muscular and the most intolerant. He is even claimed. At the beginning of this thread, he is proposed the dictatorship to pass on ecological imperatives: it is not me who him But I say among many others, that the movement has already started. Have the people endorsed measures against a warming that will drastically impoverish them and the effects of which are most improbable? been consulted on the merits of cooling the planet? ...

Forces still exist only in pairs, an object cannot exert a force on another without undergoing a force of the latter in return, in accordance with the work of our friend Isaac Newton. And it is the same thing that we observe in sociology, with capitalism there is necessarily anti-capitalism, both at the price of one and cannot be sold separately!
Anticapitalism is a pure product of the economic system, it is a phenomenon of rejection consubstantially linked to its host.
One can only be anti-capitalist in a helpless way, the so-called anti-capitalist currents are reality extreme socialist currents which aim at a redistribution of wealth and at a candid moralization of economic practices (altercapitalism). Because of their ideological constitutions (liberal and libertarian) they could not in reality live in the world which they claim to want to defend.

[GuyGadebois]

And the funniest thing about this communism for a bright future without capitalism is that the communist response to the lack of enthusiasm at work has been Stakhanovism; communism has done worse than capitalism!
What is the environmentalism that intends to replace it going to offer worse? The suspense is intense.

Communism as it has been theorized has never been implemented, unlike Maoism, Nazism or capitalism.
(sic) <<

[izentrop]

The language is more and more flowery here.

I only retain that factually https://www.inrae.fr/actualites/quelque ... e-lelevage ... Ha no, Sennosen, you gave interesting sources.
Here, I should give you a little name too because your nickname is complicated

[dede2002]

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The Chinese produce for them, not for others, that is to say that their trade with the West is to reap the benefits at home, and it works since it has boosted their growth rate for years. The construction of cities, new ports, highways is their home. The means of heating, the means of locomotion, which create pollution, it is at home and for their use, not for Westerners.

In my opinion, the Chinese produce for us, not for them. The rate of growth you are referring to is just the drops spilling out of the vase. Almost all the products we buy here are produced in China, but not by Chinese brands, they also "export profit" ...
For example: how much does a 500 Euro TV leave from China? And where does the difference go?
The pollution remains at home, okay, but I think they are more reactive than us, to see how they decided to stop importing our plastic and metallic waste, or how they relocated their land mines rare.

[GuyGadebois]

I only retain that factually https://www.inrae.fr/actualites/quelque ... e-lelevage ... Ha no, Sennosen, you gave sources

What is "meat and livestock" doing on a "dictatorship against pollution and climate change" topic?

[izentrop]

Less absurd than comparing pandemics and pollution from the point of view of freedom, it speaks at least of a dictatorship, that of anti-speciesist eco-fascism https://www.lepoint.fr/societe/l-antisp ... 983_23.php

[GuyGadebois]

Less absurd than comparing pandemics and pollution from the point of view of freedom, it speaks at least of a dictatorship, that of anti-speciesist eco-fascism

Do you realize that you are becoming more and more inconsistent?
Antispecies are not environmentalists. Besides, for your positions on global warming, you pass in the eyes of some for a green fascist. Are you one