The vegetable garden without getting tired

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Re: The vegetable garden without getting tired




by stephgouv » 02/03/21, 22:04

2 months without having published anything ... The winter period was very long and demotivating for me.
Fortunately, the beautiful days are coming!

Just like last year on the same date, I went to get a hay ball (about 300kg) and I played the steamroller this Saturday.
What a joy to be able to touch hay again.
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Before cover
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After coverage

The farmer offered me a 2-year-old rectangular boot (about the same weight) but I declined for 2 reasons:
1) easier to unroll a round ball;
2) I'm a little afraid that the hay is too compressed in the rectangular bale
But I still think I would try the experiment with a rectangular boot, but in the fall this time.

Before placing the hay, I embarked on the adventure of doing a soil structure test.
Here is how I did it:
1) Take soil from 3-4 places in the vegetable garden
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Take some soil

2) fill a jar halfway with the soil taken (I took 3 jars to be sure)
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Earth in jar

3) fill up to 1cm from the edge with mains water (I don't have reverse osmosis water)
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Fill with water

4) put the lid on and shake for 3-4min
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After stirring

5) Result after 48 hours of rest
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After 48h rest

Conclusion: difficult to find the 3 layers (I only see two, but what?)

And to end the day, I planted a little over 200 onion bulbs

On Sunday, I went for a walk with the family and found a bigger player than all of us put together!
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Fagnes01

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Fagnes02

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Fagnes03

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Fagnes04


Look at the color of the earth of these molehills near the bog.
I put my hand in one: real couscous!
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Re: The vegetable garden without getting tired




by Did67 » 02/03/21, 22:24

Slowly !!!!!!

1) The jar test is for me a tartufferie. It is illustrated in my book: no relation between what we see and the granulo made by a lab; clays and organic matter are linked, clays do not appear as such; in labvo we destroy the OM then we "disperse" the clays ...
I did all that (destruction with hydrogen peroxide / dispersion with damn blackout, punctured, I will put it another time) ...

We can also piss in the pianos ... Depending on the sound ...

2) This black earth is not at all so "glorious": this "black" is the sign of a blockage by excess water ... It is also linked to the cold. It's not bad, but it's not at all the best you think.

On the other hand, if we drain, we release its mineralization, and we obtain very good soil.

It remains that very rich in "fairly raw" OM, they are, like peat, very "light" ...

But apart from that, this is not what to look for here ...
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by stephgouv » 02/03/21, 22:43

Indeed, I am aware that a "real" analysis will not replace a "just for fun" test, but I still expected to see 3 layers. I read the chapter in the book and that's why I wanted to give it a try just to see ...
What are the 2 clearly visible layers?
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by Did67 » 03/03/21, 08:31

Probably, on the one hand, most of the silt, which is not "stuck", with undoubtedly the fine sands ...

And the bottom is probably the "aggregates" (which are not the "separate mineral elements") made up of clays stuck together by organic matter in small granules ...

Take out a few. Between two fingers, you should then be able to "flatten" them like a kind of smoothing plaster. Which shows that it was not particles! Take us pictures!
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by stephgouv » 05/03/21, 07:58

Did67 wrote:Take out a few. Between two fingers, you should then be able to "flatten" them like a kind of smoothing plaster. Which shows that it was not particles! Take us pictures!


I'll do that this weekend.
To get them out, I'll gently tilt the jar, empty the water, and use a spoon to avoid mixing. And if it fails, I'll have 2 more jars to try again.
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Re: The vegetable garden without getting tired




by Did67 » 05/03/21, 08:16

Otherwise, you have to "break" the organic matter by attacking them with hydrogen peroxide.

Then to "deflocculate" the clays, therefore to disperse them, with a product which sequesters calcium ...
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Re: The vegetable garden without getting tired




by stephgouv » 09/03/21, 10:26

This morning when you wake up: would it be the calves of March?
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Snow March

And for the jars, nothing has been done yet ...
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by stephgouv » 15/03/21, 08:43

Onions planted on 27/02 start to sprout.
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by stephgouv » 28/03/21, 21:08

Did67 wrote:Probably, on the one hand, most of the silt, which is not "stuck", with undoubtedly the fine sands ...

And the bottom is probably the "aggregates" (which are not the "separate mineral elements") made up of clays stuck together by organic matter in small granules ...

Take out a few. Between two fingers, you should then be able to "flatten" them like a kind of smoothing plaster. Which shows that it was not particles! Take us pictures!


Here it is, the day has finally come for me to look in the jar and take some pictures.
Indeed, it looks like smoothing plaster and there were a lot of small stones in the background.

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Re: The vegetable garden without getting tired




by stephgouv » 19/04/21, 13:34

First wave sown on 10/04 namely:
Green peas, various cabbages, beets, celery, lettuce, onions, leeks.
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Sowing 01

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Sowing 02

The next sowing will take place I think, the we of May 1st.
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