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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by Exnihiloest » 26/11/20, 19:06

Janic wrote:... very high dilutions no longer find any trace, no physical presence of the initial product.
Thus the usual function that is attributed to hormones at a weightable dose, for example, can be found in these diluted products and no one (some are trying to explain more or less interesting) currently) can explain it.

There is nothing to explain because this statement is totally false.
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by Janic » 26/11/20, 19:25

There is nothing to explain because this statement is totally false.
are you a homeopathic doctor? and therefore do you practice this medicine on a daily basis?
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by ABC2019 » 26/11/20, 19:25

Janic wrote:ABC2019 »26/11/20, 12:38
absolutely, it is illegal to give H. as a substitute for an effective drug, and I think doctors who do that can have big problems.
janic wrote: Always so bad! can you name the laws that prove you are right? None What is legal and what is not is defined by applicable laws. Since the time that H. has been practiced in many countries and despite BP's efforts to influence legal experts in their direction, the law has not considered H. to be an illegal practice in prescribing its drugs. AFIS WHAT A WOUND!

https://www.conseil-national.medecin.fr ... rlatanisme

Article 39 (article R.4127-39 of the public health code)

Doctors cannot offer patients or those around them as beneficial or without danger a remedy or a process that is illusory or insufficiently tested.
Any practice of charlatanism is prohibited.

since homeopathy is not required to prove its efficacy as a medicine, it is therefore not a medicine. Giving sugar in addition to a real drug treatment is okay. Giving sugar instead of a drug claiming it is a drug is charlatanism and is punishable by law.
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by ABC2019 » 26/11/20, 19:26

Janic wrote:
There is nothing to explain because this statement is totally false.
are you a homeopathic doctor?

if he was, he wouldn't say that statement is wrong, right?
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by ABC2019 » 26/11/20, 19:27

Janic wrote:
But I take it for a metaphor, because without wanting to be categorical (and Janic will correct me if I'm wrong), but homeopathy can not be of any help for everything that would relate to hormones and other pheromones ...

Well no ! I must say something else and otherwise. H, of which most of those who allow themselves to talk about it without knowing anything about it, is not limited to formal presences and doses since very high dilutions no longer find any trace, no physical presence of the initial product. .

so we only give sugar with the granules so we agree.
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by Janic » 26/11/20, 20:03

Article 39 (article R.4127-39 of the public health code)

Doctors cannot offer patients or those around them as beneficial or without danger a remedy or a process that is illusory or insufficiently tested.
Any practice of charlatanism is prohibited.

since homeopathy is not required to prove its efficacy as a medicine, it is therefore not a medicine. Giving sugar in addition to a real drug treatment is okay. Giving sugar instead of a drug claiming it is a drug is charlatanism and is punishable by law.
ah, ah, ah! always so funny the puppet!
If you knew how to operate your neurons, you would have realized that The State of which you site an article, would have put an end to the practice of this medicine definitively if it was considered to correspond to this article and there are about 5.000 doctors H in France. How many prohibitions to practice H: 0 :! Moreover, it is this State which determines the minimum dilution level to be respected.
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/ ... 0000387206
https://solidarites-sante.gouv.fr/soins ... opathiques
https://www.codes-et-lois.fr/code-de-la ... e-integral
https://www.senat.fr/questions/base/200 ... 14262.html
etc ...
Where in all this legislation of successive governments, do we find a single mention that homeopathy is designated as charlatan and liable to the law you indicate above! I suspect that you know better than them. Even your friends from AFIS do not risk it. and yet they are seriously itchy! Your narcissism once again!
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by ABC2019 » 26/11/20, 20:11

Janic wrote:Article 39 (article R.4127-39 of the public health code)

Doctors cannot offer patients or those around them as beneficial or without danger a remedy or a process that is illusory or insufficiently tested.
Any practice of charlatanism is prohibited.

since homeopathy is not required to prove its efficacy as a medicine, it is therefore not a medicine. Giving sugar in addition to a real drug treatment is okay. Giving sugar instead of a drug claiming it is a drug is charlatanism and is punishable by law.
ah, ah, ah! always so funny the puppet!
If you knew how to operate your neurons, you would have realized that The State of which you site an article, would have put an end to the practice of this medicine definitively if it was considered to correspond to this article and there are about 5.000 doctors H in France.

As I told you, we can have another interpretation: tolerance for a popular practice that does not do much harm, provided that it does not replace real treatments in serious cases.
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by ABC2019 » 26/11/20, 20:12

Janic wrote:Article 39 (article R.4127-39 of the public health code)

Doctors cannot offer patients or those around them as beneficial or without danger a remedy or a process that is illusory or insufficiently tested.
Any practice of charlatanism is prohibited.

since homeopathy is not required to prove its efficacy as a medicine, it is therefore not a medicine. Giving sugar in addition to a real drug treatment is okay. Giving sugar instead of a drug claiming it is a drug is charlatanism and is punishable by law.
ah, ah, ah! always so funny the puppet!
If you knew how to operate your neurons, you would have realized that The State of which you site an article, would have put an end to the practice of this medicine definitively if it was considered to correspond to this article and there are about 5.000 doctors H in France. How many prohibitions to practice H: 0 :! Moreover, it is this State which determines the minimum dilution level to be respected.!

since we start with potentially toxic substances at the start, that seems to me the least of things. Basically you have to make sure that there is nothing left in the sugar.
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by Janic » 26/11/20, 20:35

since we start with potentially toxic substances at the start, that seems to me the least of things. Basically you have to make sure that there is nothing left in the sugar.
and you still haven't learned to read French properly at your age ?! : Arrowd:
ah, ah, ah! always so funny the puppet!
If you knew how to operate your neurons, you would have realized that The State of which you site an article, would have put an end to the practice of this medicine definitively if it was considered to correspond to this article and there are about 5.000 doctors H in France. How many prohibitions to practice H: 0 :! Moreover, it is this State which determines the minimum dilution level to be respected.
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/jorf/id/ ... 0000387206
https://solidarites-sante.gouv.fr/soins ... opathic
https://www.codes-et-lois.fr/code-de-la ... e-integral
https://www.senat.fr/questions/base/200 ... 14262.html
etc ...
Where in all this legislation of successive governments, do we find a single mention that homeopathy is designated as charlatan and liable to the law you indicate above! I suspect that you know better than them. Even your friends from AFIS do not risk it. and yet they are seriously itchy! Your narcissism once again!
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by ABC2019 » 26/11/20, 21:28

Janic wrote:
since we start with potentially toxic substances at the start, that seems to me the least of things. Basically you have to make sure that there is nothing left in the sugar.
and you still haven't learned to read French properly at your age ?!

well if why? I just said that it was normal to require a minimal dilution considering the crap that one puts there at the beginning, what is the problem of French?
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