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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by GuyGadebois » 20/03/20, 19:02

We can write anything on this thread, on either side, it will never be satisfactory. Stay bickering like two hysterical crap ... I had enough of your bullshit. :x
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by Janic » 20/03/20, 19:50

by GuyGadebois »20/03/20, 20:02
We can write anything on this thread, on either side, it will never be satisfactory.
but it is very satisfactory, in large part at least Providing a few clarifications, even corrective, have never removed the substance.
For example, the author speaks of fasting, taking Ramadan as an example, which is not a real fast, but a simple shift in food intake from day to night, which obviously cannot be qualified as "therapeutic fasting." ". On the contrary, since this shift breaks the biological rhythms, especially at the level of sleep.
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by ABC2019 » 20/03/20, 19:57

GuyGadebois wrote:We can write anything on this thread, on either side, it will never be satisfactory. Stay bickering like two hysterical crap ... I had enough of your bullshit. :x

obviously the discussion cannot converge; we can see that whatever we say to Janic, he takes no account of it and always yells the same insults over and over: what do you mean to a schizophrenic who keeps telling you that he is Napoleon and howls with betrayal as soon as you try to show him that it may not be true?

The only interesting thing, again, is to look at how the mental mechanisms of sectarian beliefs work, which have moreover already been well studied in other contexts, like the one I have already mentioned, the Failure of '' A Prophecy: a sociologist having entered a sect having announced for a specific date the end of the world and the arrival of aliens, and the strategies of denial that they developed when this prophecy did not come true ( in this case, the explanation was that the prayers of the sect had been effective in diverting the extraterrestrials from their project).

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Échec ... _prophétie

It is interesting to see how Janic, who gives us references on the miracles of homeopathy to treat dramatically all the serious crises of the past, finds himself in the same situation with the pitiful absence of any effect of the H. on the current Covid-19 crisis, and completely changes his rifle: ah there it is that they lack the means for their studies - notwithstanding the fact that he claimed just above that there did not need studies because the H. it has nothing to do with A. , and this to justify the total absence of studies available for pharmacopoeia H ...

PS: curiously and despite the lack of time and means, there are many drugs that have been recommended:

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/malad ... 49007.html
The Indian government had also indicated in a press release that it advocated homeopathy to fight the disease. "The group of experts recommended, among other things, that the homeopathic medicine Arsenicum album 30 can be used as a prophylactic against coronavirus infections", assured the Central Council of Indian Homeopathy Research on January 29.

(quickly denied by Boiron)
I let you imagine by what mental process someone could have said at one time that Arsenicum Album 30 should be effective against the Covid-19, since no test could not have been physically done before ...
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by Janic » 20/03/20, 20:02

more silly as a speech, it becomes difficult. You should avoid pseudo intellectual masturbation because it gets worse every time as your reasoning becomes stupid.
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The Indian government had also indicated in a press release that it advocated homeopathy to fight the disease. "The expert group recommended, among other things, that the homeopathic medicine Arsenicum album 30 could be used as a prophylactic against coronavirus infections ", assured the Central Council for Research in Indian Homeopathy last January 29.
(quickly denied by Boiron)
since when would Boiron have authority over India and its medical profession?
I let you imagine by what mental process someone could say[*] at a time when Arsenicum Album 30 had to be effective against Covid-19, since no test could have been physically done before ...
of the same kind! Stop your masturbation, it goes to your brain, serious! : Twisted:

[*] this someone being the group of experts of the health authority of this country! Pov 'sucks! : Shock:
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by ABC2019 » 20/03/20, 23:22

Janic wrote:more silly as a speech, it becomes difficult. You should avoid pseudo intellectual masturbation because it gets worse every time as your reasoning becomes stupid.
Examples:
The Indian government had also indicated in a press release that it advocated homeopathy to fight the disease. "The expert group recommended, among other things, that the homeopathic medicine Arsenicum album 30 could be used as a prophylactic against coronavirus infections ", assured the Central Council for Research in Indian Homeopathy last January 29.
(quickly denied by Boiron)
since when would Boiron have authority over India and its medical profession?

the fact that you consider that the effectiveness of a drug depends on the country, that says a lot about your conception of science, which is for you only a matter of authority ... it is people like you who constitute gurus flesh, we follow the chef and we don't ask questions.

otherwise the usual insults I described above, but we have long understood that it was your only weapon.
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by Janic » 21/03/20, 08:04

Examples:
The Indian government had also indicated in a press release that it advocated homeopathy to fight the disease. "The group of experts recommended, among other things, that the homeopathic medicine Arsenicum album 30 can be used as a prophylactic against coronavirus infections", assured the Central Council of Indian Homeopathy Research on January 29.
(quickly denied by Boiron)
since when would Boiron have authority over India and its medical profession?
the fact that tu consider that the effectiveness of a drug depends on the country, it says a lot about your conception of science, which is for you only a matter of authority ... it is indeed people like you who constitute gurus flesh, we follow the chef and we don't ask questions.
The hospital that would mock charity, as far as it is questioned.
JE do nothing at all once again! You believe in the authority of BP when it penetrates Western universities, but if they are not in other countries, including India, these experts and central research council are only assholes, according to you, one more time.
Who is the bleating sheep, the guru flesh like AFIS, pseudo science and others with their fake news that you repeat in loops like mantra.
otherwise the usual insults I described above, but we have long understood that it was your only weapon.
Ah, ah, ah! And what do you call tes insults on doctors! Assholes, is that right?
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by ABC2019 » 21/03/20, 09:19

Janic wrote:The hospital that would mock charity, as far as it is questioned.
JE do nothing at all once again! You believe in the authority of BP when it penetrates Western universities, but if they are not in other countries, including India, these experts and central research council are only assholes,

can you quote me the message where I said that I believe in BP's authority, and the message where I said that Indian experts are just assholes?

FYI, I don't believe in the authority of no one. I believe in the scientific method, but I think that no one applies it perfectly, without being polluted by authoritative, political, economic arguments. That's why I ask where the certainties come from, where are the experiments carried out, what process led to the recommendations ... And I will ask everyone, including someone who would claim that BP, or AFIS, is always right and never makes mistakes. For example for the climate, I think that "official" science is ALSO polluted by political and economic considerations. So I don't blindly trust any institution, even the "official" ones.

But I don't ask equally to someone who claims that BP only spreads fakenews, there is no reason to be darling. : Mrgreen: And I judge the seriousness of people, from the reactions when I ask that. Yours is roughly at the zero level of credibility. There is no need to be an H specialist to realize this.

Obviously, this method of applying the same requirement to everyone is completely foreign and incomprehensible to you. You chose your side, and you decided in advance that he was right and that the others were wrong. As I explain, this is the operating principle of sects.
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by ABC2019 » 21/03/20, 09:21

Janic wrote:Ah, ah, ah! And what do you call tes insults on doctors! Assholes, is that right?

not the assholes, they are those who propagate sentences without checking their sources, even who invent them. I said "assholes like you", and you're not a doctor if I understood correctly?
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by pedrodelavega » 21/03/20, 10:15

Janic wrote:So it's like mediumship according to your criteria ?!
I'm just saying that duration, seniority is not proof. The 2 centuries of existence of H does not prove anything.

Janic wrote:in fact you don't know, as usual you wind
Yes, but where is the individualization when we give the same remedy to an entire herd?

Janic wrote:
You yourself recognized that we could assess the 2 on a clinical trial. The evaluation consists in measuring the cure rate, Identical criteria.
But not on the same criteria
If: Healing. That is what we are trying to assess, no matter how the practice works.

Janic wrote:So there are and there will always be points in common in general engineering studies, but not adapted to specialties like aviation / marine and the speeds of movement are part of these elements, but the day when the boats will go to 2 times the speed of sound and planes at 3000 meters deep, we will talk about it again!
The day homeopathy has the same cure rates as science-based medicine, we will talk about it again ....
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Re: The benefits of homeopathy and food and other alternatives.

by Janic » 21/03/20, 10:22

ABC2019 »21/03/20, 10:21
Janic wrote:
Ah, ah, ah! And what do you call your insults on the doctors! Assholes, is that right?
not the assholes, they are those who propagate sentences without checking their sources, even who invent them. I said "assholes like you", and you're not a doctor if I understood correctly?
Except that it is precisely "propagated" by doctors, so you did not read it as usual? You prefer your usual fakenews! Who is the asshole in question of this fact?
. Besides being silly, he is blind! The sources are indicated very clearly, just read! It is even written in French, which should make your task easier! : Cheesy:
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