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by izentrop » 23/02/20, 08:24

AD 44 wrote:Sorry I don't understand the explanation ...
Antibiotic resistance (if it is that) concerns everyone (antibiotic abusers or not)?!?
Animal administrations for example can have effects on infections in humans ...
Finally ... This is what I thought. Maybe I am wrong.
Yes, you are right from the moment that you come across the same bacteria (not only) and it is not an exclusive property of antibiotics.

A toxic substance, if it is incorrectly dosed does not decimate 100% of individuals, whether bacteria or flies. There are mutations and variations in genes. The few survivors of this substance, if they have the chance to procreate, will create generations of resistant to this substance. To reduce this possibility, the dosages must be precise, respected and the treatment short-lived and varied if there is recurrence.

Bacteria have an advantage horizontal gene transfer which allows them faster and interspecies mutations.

At the farm level, fortunately the regulations are changing https://agriculture.gouv.fr/tout-savoir ... resistance and professionals know how to vary the means of action to avoid drifts.

In short, resistance is easily eliminated by respecting the rules.

Well-used penicillins are still an effective tool https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9ni ... cillines_M

With us, the problem is better and better managed, this is not the case elsewhere http://www.slate.fr/lien/36567/resistan ... ibiotiques
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Re: Antibiotic resistance




by Janic » 23/02/20, 08:40

oh the joker! Managing antibiotics is much more of an apothecary than a science, because most of the time they are dosed blindly, a little more here, a little less there according to each patient because there are not two individuals who react the same way. However, the alarms of scientists do not relate to the dosage, but to the non-mastery of these antibiotic resistance since with each new medoc placed on the market bioresistance is immediately organized as for any body or product foreign to the 'organization.
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by Exnihiloest » 23/02/20, 17:02

We don't care, antibiotic resistance. What matters in terms of antibiotics is to stay ahead of the adapting nature.
And we found the right technique to have new ones:
https://www.numerama.com/sciences/60714 ... miere.html

Nature: 0, culture: 1
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by Janic » 23/02/20, 17:17

We don't care, antibiotic resistance. What matters in terms of antibiotics is to be ahead of nature that adapts.
And we found the right technique to have new ones:
https://www.numerama.com/sciences/60714 ... mother.html

Nature: 0, culture: 1
this is called an announcement effect, to have additional credits. Mice are not humans and cells in Petri dishes, this is not in vivo, but in vitro. Completely disconnected from the complexity of compounds in vivo. So let's wait for the future flop as usual, or the usual side effects on the real short, medium et long term. Which doesn't seem to have been done with mice. Human vanity once again!
Nature = 1000, culture = 0
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by GuyGadebois » 23/02/20, 17:20

Exnihiloest wrote:Nature: 0, culture: 1

Do you realize the grotesque of what you just wrote? : roll:
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by Exnihiloest » 23/02/20, 17:26

GuyGadebois wrote:
Exnihiloest wrote:Nature: 0, culture: 1

Do you realize the grotesque of what you just wrote? : roll:

Did I mention you ?!
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by Exnihiloest » 23/02/20, 17:28

Janic wrote:
We don't care, antibiotic resistance. What matters in terms of antibiotics is to be ahead of nature that adapts.
And we found the right technique to have new ones:
https://www.numerama.com/sciences/60714 ... mother.html

Nature: 0, culture: 1
this is called an announcement effect, to have additional credits. ...


Proof ?!
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by Janic » 23/02/20, 18:37

Nature: 0, culture: 1
this is called an announcement effect, to get additional credits. ...
Proof ?!
not hard: Nature: 0, culture: 1 evidence?
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by Exnihiloest » 23/02/20, 18:50

Janic wrote:
Nature: 0, culture: 1
this is called an announcement effect, to get additional credits. ...
Proof ?!
not hard: Nature: 0, culture: 1 evidence?


I see that you missed that, that is to say the essential:
https://www.numerama.com/sciences/60714 ... miere.html

Too complicated, no doubt ...

"Halicin has already been tested in vivo in mice infected with A. baumannii: many soldiers returning from the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan have returned with this bacteriological disease, against which no antibiotic has ever been used. could be found so far. However, in mice, it took only 24 hours for halicin to kill A. baumannii. The researchers also carried out tests on cells taken from human patients. Again, the results are exceptional: the antibiotic was able to destroy Mycobacterium tuberculosis, the pathogen that causes tuberculosis."
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by Janic » 23/02/20, 19:00

I see that you missed that, that is to say the essential:
https://www.numerama.com/sciences/60714 ... miere.html and

Too complicated, no doubt ...
for you without a doubt. This kind of announcement the newspapers are full of each year, hence the rating effect. So let's wait to see if it's going to make its usual flop and for how long
"Halicin has already been tested in vivo on mice infected with A. baumannii: many soldiers returning from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have returned with this bacteriological disease, against which no antibiotic has been found. has never been found so far, but in mice it took only 24 hours for the halicin to kill A. baumannii. The researchers also carried out tests on cells taken from human patients. Here again, the results are exceptional: the antibiotic was able to destroy Mycobacterium tuberculosis, the pathogen that causes tuberculosis. "
In vitro, not in vivo! you read correctly? Let’s wait for his marketing authorization, if that goes so far.
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