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Re: Antibiotic resistance




by GuyGadebois » 26/02/20, 22:29

Exnihiloest wrote:
Antibiotics don't attack viruses, yes. But the "die" is the "die", not especially the flu but the catch-all that we familiarly use to store all our little plagues, pulmonary infection, angina, bronchitis ...

A third of nasopharyngitis, tonsillitis and other acute bronchitis are bacterial, but it seems to me that antibiotics are no longer given. Someone here saw his doctor offer him the rapid diagnostic test to find out if his angina is of bacterial origin or not? It is possible that practices have changed in recent years, I am lucky not to see my doctor often.

Wow! The page before I wrote: "Except when it comes to viruses and the doctor systematically prescribes an antibiotic (therefore ineffective) based only on symptoms and not on an analysis".
And you said, "Unnecessary use is another problem.
The problem is that we ALSO reduce the use of antibiotics where they are useful (without being vital), that's what I said.
The amalgamation of the two questions without distinction, it's nonsense. "
And there you advance that 2/3 of the "crèves" are of viral origin .... So YES the useless use was indeed a problem. Problem which directly led us to multi-antibiotic resistance whose reality is indisputable.
But "the distinguo" is for grandpa, the others are dummies.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance




by izentrop » 26/02/20, 23:49

GuyGadebois wrote:This realistic reflection, since the labs do not give a damn about molecules from which they cannot benefit, does not taint or invalidate in any way its experiments, nor its results (which you do not give a damn about since you only find that). Did you say "show off, fluff"? Lead by example.
There is still a scent of conspiracy and there does not seem to have been any clinical trials https://www.sceptiques.qc.ca/forum/view ... 15&t=14030

As an example, I would trust these researchers more
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Re: Antibiotic resistance




by GuyGadebois » 27/02/20, 01:26

In this case, it is not a question of replacing antibiotics with essential oils, but of combining them for more effectiveness. I thought you had read the article in which it is written:
We started doing clinical trials in late 2015 early 2016 with Augmentin - which is the best-selling antibiotic in the world - and eucalyptus essential oil in twenty-five very difficult cases: hospitalized patients who had multidrug-resistant urinary tract infections with practically all nosocomial infection. It was the first clinical study initiated by a Moroccan laboratory and researcher! The result was spectacular: after six days of treatment, the traces of infection had disappeared in the urine, even in patients who had been sick for almost twenty years, the doctor could not believe it. We then started again on fifty other patients, and the same result! The drug will arrive on the Moroccan market at the end of 2017 under the name of Soclav Plus, Soclav being a generic of Augmentin produced by Sothema. It will treat recalcitrant urinary tract infections, but knowing the doctors, they will also use it for more conventional urinary tract infections.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance




by Janic » 27/02/20, 09:00

were these tests also done only with HE?
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Re: Antibiotic resistance




by izentrop » 27/02/20, 09:40

Janic wrote:were these tests also done only with HE?
and above all, have these studies been done scientifically and published in a peer-reviewed journal?

No trace of this Soclav was found, possibly distributed on an unofficial market, which does not prove its effectiveness.
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Re: Antibiotic resistance




by Janic » 27/02/20, 09:52

Janic wrote:
were these tests also done only with HE?

and above all, have these studies been done scientifically and published in a peer-reviewed journal?
inevitably since they are scientists and they have read their work and reviewed them in small groups of their own reading.
It sucks this guy! :x
typically what a member of his sect AFIS et Cie can say!
No trace of this Soclav was found, possibly distributed on an unofficial market, which does not prove its effectiveness.
and one more! You won the pomp of ridicule! : Cheesy:
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