Davos: The bosses believe in the fable of global warming and sound the alarm

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Re: Davos: Bosses believe in the fable of global warming and sound the alarm




by Christophe » 18/01/20, 13:17

ABC2019 wrote:To have the end of the story:

https://twitter.com/ThomasSotto/stat...27303790178305


This link was badly copied / pasted, isn't it the concern?

Isn't this one?

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Re: Davos: Bosses believe in the fable of global warming and sound the alarm




by sicetaitsimple » 18/01/20, 14:27

Christophe wrote:I haven't followed the case, I don't know who the bad guy is ... but this graph seems piped to me: Where are the more than 200 Tsunami dead in 000?
Also at the moment, there is a beautiful famine in progress in Yemen, it does not appear on this graph which stops in 2016 ...


I have no idea about the representativeness of these figures, nevertheless two remarks of a "technical" nature. : Oops: : Oops: : Oops: given the subject:

- these are annual deaths, the more than 200.000 dead from the 2004 tsunami are certainly found under the approximately 50.000 dead annually from the period 2000-2010 under the heading "earthquake"
- wars and their consequences (famines, epidemics, etc.) are not classified as "natural disasters". The "proof", the smallest figure on the graph is that of the years 1910-1920 ......
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Re: Davos: Bosses believe in the fable of global warming and sound the alarm




by ABC2019 » 18/01/20, 18:17

Christophe wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:it would be a shame if this monument to journalistic objectivity were to be forgotten


So that this does not disappear, it is better to host the captures on the server of the forum, it's done...

ABC2019 wrote:and one of his comments posting one of the graphics from the site cited above

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I haven't followed the case, I don't know who the bad guy is ... but this graph seems piped to me: Where are the more than 200 Tsunami dead in 000?


Don't worry, the site "https://ourworldindata.org/" is quite objective, neither climate-skeptic nor climate-warming oriented, it's simply a compilation of official data on disasters - in short, where to go and see if we want information.

There are no good guys and bad guys, there are just people who look at the numbers and others who don't.

The histogram given is an average over a decade, so the 200000 of the tsunami count "only" for 20 per year, and that of Haiti must count in the 000 decade.
Not sure that the famines of Yemen are counted on the other hand, if they are more due to the state of war than to a real drought. On the whole the world is sufficiently equipped to bring food everywhere, the famines are now essentially political.
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Re: Davos: Bosses believe in the fable of global warming and sound the alarm




by ABC2019 » 18/01/20, 18:22

Christophe wrote:
ABC2019 wrote:To have the end of the story:

https://twitter.com/ThomasSotto/stat...27303790178305


This link was badly copied / pasted, isn't it the concern? 5


oops yes my fault sorry, the tweet is still visible actually :)
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Re: Davos: Bosses believe in the fable of global warming and sound the alarm




by ABC2019 » 18/01/20, 18:32

However the same info that I posted on futurasciences was properly cleaned and I got three weeks of banishment!

it does not laugh with the heretics there, if they could light a pyre and make an auto da fé, they would do it I am on ... : Shock:
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Re: Davos: Bosses believe in the fable of global warming and sound the alarm




by Christophe » 19/01/20, 05:43

sicetaitsimple wrote:I have no idea about the representativeness of these figures, nevertheless two remarks of a "technical" nature. : Oops: : Oops: : Oops: given the subject:

- these are annual deaths, the more than 200.000 dead from the 2004 tsunami are certainly found under the approximately 50.000 dead annually from the period 2000-2010 under the heading "earthquake"


uh by decade that means by decade .... right?

Well I go back to sleep ...
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Re: Davos: Bosses believe in the fable of global warming and sound the alarm




by Christophe » 19/01/20, 05:46

ABC2019 wrote:However the same info that I posted on futurasciences was properly cleaned and I got three weeks of banishment!

it does not laugh with the heretics there, if they could light a pyre and make an auto da fé, they would do it I am on ... : Shock:


Well stay here ... we are less fachos and more objective (except biiiiiiiip ... and bippp ... and bipppp ... and ....)! :? : Cheesy:
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Re: Davos: Bosses believe in the fable of global warming and sound the alarm




by ABC2019 » 19/01/20, 07:53

Christophe wrote:
sicetaitsimple wrote:I have no idea about the representativeness of these figures, nevertheless two remarks of a "technical" nature. : Oops: : Oops: : Oops: given the subject:

- these are annual deaths, the more than 200.000 dead from the 2004 tsunami are certainly found under the approximately 50.000 dead annually from the period 2000-2010 under the heading "earthquake"


uh by decade that means by decade .... right?

Well I go back to sleep ...

no it's the figures per year, but averaged over a decade ... we add up all the disasters and divide by 10 at the end, each individual disaster therefore contributes only a tenth of the number of victims (but if they are repeated every year for 10 years, we find the same figure at the end).
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Re: Davos: Bosses believe in the fable of global warming and sound the alarm




by ABC2019 » 19/01/20, 10:26

By the way by checking it's funny but both are wrong !! in fact Abnousse Shalmani gives the figure of "11 deaths in 000" but she also made a mistake, in 2008 there was the Cyclone Nargis in Burma which was very destructive and claimed around 140 lives, but the ruling junta had made no announcement to the population and had refused any international aid, even maintaining a referendum planned at that time.

The figure of 11000 relates to the year 2009, not 2008. But on average over 10 years she is much more right than Nicolas Hulot, of course.
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Re: Davos: Bosses believe in the fable of global warming and sound the alarm




by Christophe » 19/01/20, 13:44

ABC2019 wrote:no it's the figures per year, but averaged over a decade ... we add up all the disasters and divide by 10 at the end, each individual disaster therefore contributes only a tenth of the number of victims (but if they are repeated every year for 10 years, we find the same figure at the end).


Indeed ... well I think it's quite misleading as a representation!

per year is noted 1 time in small and per decade several times in large ...

In the end there is an error factor of 1 to 10 in the values ​​... In short, I was tricked by this presentation and I don't think I am the only one ...
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