Pension reform - you were born in 1960 (or after) you will work more

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by Christophe » 25/12/19, 12:24

Of course, then how is it possible that he only declared € 300 in assets in 000?

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by lilian07 » 25/12/19, 13:02

Of course, then how is it possible that he only declared € 300 in assets in 000?


Because this system is declarative and moreover it has evolved well since its implementation and since the witch hunt for bad declarers.

The main thing in all of this is that it is important to pursue the moralization of public and state service (with its clarifications and its resurgence of scandal) because it has lasted too long and it is far too different modernized democracies.
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by Christophe » 25/12/19, 13:18

What a joke !!

And the little one who gets caught by the taxman is massacred!
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by lilian07 » 25/12/19, 14:26

And the little one who gets caught by the taxman is massacred!


No advantage that the big see not at all.
In addition, the greatest mass of fraud is located on small declarants and they are not always rectified often for these reasons:
-fraud too old
- Bad statement which is taken into account
-Not taken into account new laws

Finally these same declarants are not dismissed from their work in the name of morality.

I don't defend anyone, big or small. We should not just make too much confusion about state action and the adjustments that are being made.
In any project there are errors, adjustments and sometimes even regressions.
It is often the old systems which no longer need to persist because the initial conditions of their birth are no longer the same, which leads to a division of the people and to readjustments of the leaders.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 25/12/19, 16:26

lilian07 wrote:
And the little one who gets caught by the taxman is massacred!


No advantage that the big see not at all.
In addition, the greatest mass of fraud is located on small declarants and they are not always rectified often for these reasons:
-fraud too old
- Bad statement which is taken into account
-Not taken into account new laws

Finally these same declarants are not dismissed from their work in the name of morality.

I don't defend anyone, big or small. We should not just make too much confusion about state action and the adjustments that are being made.
In any project there are errors, adjustments and sometimes even regressions.
It is often the old systems which no longer need to persist because the initial conditions of their birth are no longer the same, which leads to a division of the people and to readjustments of the leaders.
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For the good of the country it is NOT the NUMBER but the AMOUNTS that matter.

It's the same with social fraud.

We focus on the little ones who cheat for 150 € more RSA.

But for a long time we left alone all those who defrauded for millions or even billions of non-declarations by staff or social workers or VAT.

This does not preclude that EVERYONE must be correct.

But if I had to put more means to wedge more it is on the LARGE FRAUDERS that I would put these means and the adequate staff because they are the ones who steal us the most.

Now the big ones are no longer quiet, there are only the VERY LARGE who still pass through the cracks ...
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by GuyGadebois » 25/12/19, 18:18

Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:This does not preclude that EVERYONE must be correct.

When you have nothing to eat, you cannot afford to be straight.
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by lilian07 » 25/12/19, 18:33

I think the very big ones escape the rule because they tend to divert it by heavy legal means.

I also think that fraud in this country is sometimes a tradition, moonlighting as well as retirees over 100 years old who are dead and exiled abroad represent a heavy burden of fraud ... see very heavy of fraud .
In fact several tens of billions, tracking down these fraudsters would instantly settle this injustice of the multiple pension funds more or less piloted and arbitrated (hence the natural drift over 30 years of purchasing social peace).

I also make it clear that I am for justice, whether social or not.

Witches are going to fall because they can no longer hide and they still think they are living in the old world where people were easily taken for idiots ...
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 25/12/19, 18:40

lilian07 wrote:Witches are going to fall because they can no longer hide and they still think they are living in the old world where people were easily taken for idiots ...


Ah if that could be the good resolution of 2020 but I doubt it very much.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 25/12/19, 18:43

GuyGadebois wrote:
Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:This does not preclude that EVERYONE must be correct.

When you have nothing to eat, you cannot afford to be straight.


Infinite debate
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by GuyGadebois » 25/12/19, 19:03

Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:
GuyGadebois wrote:
Adrien (ex-nico239) wrote:This does not preclude that EVERYONE must be correct.

When you have nothing to eat, you cannot afford to be straight.


Infinite debate

In math, a line is infinite, but so is a half-line. The rich have the means (I would add "the duty" also) to be legal, not some poor.
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