Pension reform - you were born in 1960 (or after) you will work more

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by sicetaitsimple » 21/12/19, 19:47

Christophe wrote:One of their investigators, Erwan Seznec, has meticulously passed the infrared information available on SNCF remuneration and his first observation is brutal: "Year after year, and despite the staff cuts, the payroll there is growing significantly faster than the number of passengers transported. Thus in 2003, 178 rail workers "shared" 000 billion euros, or 7,7 euros per head. Ten years later, in 43, there were only 260, but "they received" 2013 billion euros, or 152 euros per person, or 000 euros per month over thirteen months.


I absolutely do not think that SNCF agents are specially mistreated in terms of salary.

But there are presentations, including this one, from UFC's Mr. Seznec that Choose, that are more than biased: Divide a payroll by the number of employees and write "they received »9 billion euros, or 59 euros per person, or 200 euros per month over thirteen months.,"This is to suggest that an average SNCF employee receives € 4554 / month over 13 months. [/ quote].

This is indeed what they "cost" the SNCF taking into account the employer's charges, but net on the payroll they received about 60% of that. Go around 2700 € / month on average. This is "correct" again.
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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 21/12/19, 19:52

This type of government plan where we want to abolish all specific pension plans but where we keep the derogatory plans of politicians and police frankly it sucks right?

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by GuyGadebois » 21/12/19, 21:12

nico239 wrote:This type of government plan where we want to abolish all specific pension plans but where we keep the derogatory plans of politicians and police frankly it sucks right?

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More than ever we live in a France (a world) where there are "those from above" and "those from below". The crooked politicians assisted by the media in hand of billionaires, sowed discord among certain accomplice unions and the class struggle no longer exists. It has even become a dirty word as it rages under different names. Divide for better reign, the right and the rotten left have achieved it, breaking a fragile social cement which began to crumble seriously under Mitterrand.
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by to be chafoin » 21/12/19, 22:54

thibr wrote:is that not precisely the purpose of taking hardship into account?
Is that so ? They will take into account the arduousness? How? 'Or' What ?
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by GuyGadebois » 21/12/19, 22:57

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thibr wrote:is that not precisely the purpose of taking hardship into account?
Is that so ? They will take into account the arduousness? How? 'Or' What ?

It would be simple taking into account the statistics of occupational medicine, exposure to certain substances and mortality by trades.
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by Remundo » 21/12/19, 23:02

Little Tatiana (a former LFI) joins the analyzes of Dupont Aignan, and well, we are progressing:

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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 21/12/19, 23:13

sicetaitsimple wrote:
Christophe wrote:One of their investigators, Erwan Seznec, has meticulously passed the infrared information available on SNCF remuneration and his first observation is brutal: "Year after year, and despite the staff cuts, the payroll there is growing significantly faster than the number of passengers transported. Thus in 2003, 178 rail workers "shared" 000 billion euros, or 7,7 euros per head. Ten years later, in 43, there were only 260, but "they received" 2013 billion euros, or 152 euros per person, or 000 euros per month over thirteen months.


I absolutely do not think that SNCF agents are specially mistreated in terms of salary.

But there are presentations, including this one, from UFC's Mr. Seznec that Choose, that are more than biased: Divide a payroll by the number of employees and write "they received »9 billion euros, or 59 euros per person, or 200 euros per month over thirteen months.,"is to suggest that an average SNCF employee receives € 4554 / month over 13 months.

This is indeed what they "cost" the SNCF taking into account the employer's charges, but net on the payroll they received about 60% of that. Go around 2700 € / month on average. This is "correct" again.




For once a national newspaper has well deciphered the biased calculations that circulate on the net, it is 15 minutes 50

https://www.tf1.fr/tf1/jt-we/videos/le- ... 19693.html

She is good (I mean she did her job well) this little journalist, I hope we will see her again

According to the DRESS report that she cites, we are AVERAGE at .....
https://drees.solidarites-sante.gouv.fr ... ition-2019
https://drees.solidarites-sante.gouv.fr ... e-2019.pdf

THE AMOUNTS ARE IN BRUT

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by Adrien (ex-nico239) » 21/12/19, 23:22

Grelinette wrote:Speaking of François Ruffin, who heard this recording of François Ruffin circulating on the web where we hear him set up an "arranged" meeting with Macron? I'm sure it's a fake!

https://www.bfmtv.com/politique/ruffin- ... 13662.html




:?: :?: :?: :?:

Well, I don't get it, you have all the explanation in the video: if it says true of course.

The registration dates from 3 years ago and it took place in the presence of the employees.
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by Christophe » 22/12/19, 16:39

The news of the day !!! Waaaaaw Bravo Manu !! Except it's probably wrong!

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by Christophe » 22/12/19, 16:52

Is it joke day?

No smooth transition, no exception ... When it comes to their pensions, the majority members expect to be treated exactly like the rest of the French.


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