In the name of the earth: or the excesses of finance in agriculture

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by GuyGadebois » 01/10/19, 22:02

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Moindreffor wrote:So it's not finance that must be thrown to the winds, cons are not there ...

If, too! On one side we have the poor cons, on the other, the dirty cons ...: Mrgreen:

a big banker I do not know his name any more, do not take the rich but the poor because they are much more numerous
when your job is to make money, criticize the bankers because they make a lot of it seems odd

are we criticizing a doctor who is treating you too well
a cook who makes you eat too well : Mrgreen: :?: :?: :?:

but a banker who wins too well yes : Mrgreen: while like the others, he is only doing his job well

Put on the same plane a bastard banker and a doctor, frankly ... :(
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by Janic » 02/10/19, 08:37

Put a bastard banker and a doctor on the same plane, frankly
why not? Everyone acts in the interest of their customers as their own and they only practice what they have learned, according to their conscience of doing good or bad, but here we overflow on the moral sense of any action and there would be a lot to say of each profession that everyone exercises on this earth. : Cry:
Indeed when a farmer pours piles of chemicals on the ground and the doctor does the same in the bodies of his customers: where is the difference? The first depends on big agrochemistry and the other on big pharma, which is white cap and white cap as for the result!
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by VetusLignum » 02/10/19, 12:25

I haven't seen the film, but ...

We have seen a lot of videos with farmers who are trying to work better, to tackle the challenges facing them (and in particular soil erosion), to think long term…

But not all farmers are like that.

Others are more concerned about their social status, and with this in mind, it is important for them to have a tractor, a plow, a combine harvester that inspire admiration. These are not concerned with soil health; they are concerned with working as it is done; they like everything to be clean ... It is their image that counts above all ...
These are in danger of going into the wall ...
And if you look closely, the equipment offered to farmers has become extremely sophisticated (I am thinking of tractors); much more than it should be…
http://www.agriavis.com/news-9582-top+1 ... +2016.html

And then there are others, in particular in the breeding, which started from low enough, and who were forced to make very important investments to meet the standards; on the basis of too optimistic income forecasts ... In fact, their project was unfortunately unfortunately not viable from the start ...

Farmers of the past were extremely economical and careful; farmers today take a lot of risks for some, taking out large loans; forgetting a little that their incomes are relatively erratic, because strongly subjected to different types of hazards, and in particular to climatic vagaries.
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by Ahmed » 02/10/19, 12:44

The agricultural activity is based on the implementation of a very important capital for the production of a rather weak interest, from where the structural fragility of the sector. Without subsidies, it would be disqualified compared to other producers in countries where production conditions are more favorable (for various reasons, including social ones).
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by GuyGadebois » 02/10/19, 12:53

Ahmed wrote:The agricultural activity is based on the implementation of a very important capital for the production of a rather weak interest, from where the structural fragility of the sector. Without subsidies, it would be disqualified compared to other producers in countries where production conditions are more favorable (for various reasons, including social ones).

Always more, always cheaper. The wound.
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by Moindreffor » 02/10/19, 16:08

GuyGadebois wrote:
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GuyGadebois wrote:If, too! On one side we have the poor cons, on the other, the dirty cons ...: Mrgreen:

a big banker I do not know his name any more, do not take the rich but the poor because they are much more numerous
when your job is to make money, criticize the bankers because they make a lot of it seems odd

are we criticizing a doctor who is treating you too well
a cook who makes you eat too well : Mrgreen: :?: :?: :?:

but a banker who wins too well yes : Mrgreen: while like the others, he is only doing his job well

Put on the same plane a bastard banker and a doctor, frankly ... :(

my banker allowed me to become an owner, I thank him for that, what is a bastard, is jealousy speaking? or were you robbed by your banker?
it is not the bankers who have money problems or who create money problems, it is those who spend it badly
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by GuyGadebois » 02/10/19, 16:16

So look at the embezzlement of Crédit Lyonnais, Lehman Brothers, HSBCB, Goldman Sachs, BNP Paribas ... for example, you will (perhaps) understand what I am talking about.
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by Christophe » 02/10/19, 16:42

Moindreffor wrote:it is not the bankers who have money problems or who create money problems, it is those who spend it badly


So is it the small customers of the banks?

If yes it is a 2 ball assertion!

Let's go back to 2008, the subprime crisis was a problem of functioning of the banking system and not a problem of "those who spend badly".

The contractors of these subprime loans (= the + or - poor, firstly homeowners) were blamed as responsible but it is completely bogus. These are the people who lost everything (or almost everything) in having trusted their banker of the time who offered rotten products!

Little is said about it, and for good reason, but the subprime crisis has destroyed thousands of billions of real wealth and destroyed millions of lives! (entire neighborhood abandoned, impoverishment of the middle class ...)
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by Moindreffor » 02/10/19, 16:42

GuyGadebois wrote:So look at the embezzlement of Crédit Lyonnais, Lehman Brothers, HSBCB, Goldman Sachs, BNP Paribas ... for example, you will (perhaps) understand what I am talking about.

but everywhere you will have cheaters, that's not why you have to put everyone in the same bag, it's very simplistic and simplistic

after when you are promised the Moon without any guarantee, do you take the risk or not? it works you will say that your banker is a genius it crashes it is a crook
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by Christophe » 02/10/19, 16:44

Moindreffor wrote:but everywhere you will have cheaters, that's not why you have to put everyone in the same bag, it's very simplistic and simplistic

after when you are promised the Moon without any guarantee, do you take the risk or not? it works you will say that your banker is a genius it crashes it is a crook


Disagree because it is the whole system that cheats there and with impunity! On the other hand, we, the poor, are we taught to be honest, are we punished for any petty crime?

You should watch the 2 videos posted on this subject: economy-finance / the-greater-crash-Financial-of-all-the-history-will-be-produced-by-2019-t16137.html
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