Bonnecabane!

[Christophe]

We often mentioned this type of operation of certain equipment where it is enough to put them down, plug in, and presto, I send my current in the network and I deduct it from my electricity bill! Is it that simple?

Yes we can do it in France but it is very little done in reality because it undermines profitability because the injected kWh are just "erased" from the bill ... and at 15-16 cents per kWh it is 15 years of return for an average installation ...

The majority of installations are therefore double counted to benefit from the subsidized buyout price (less and less) ... We talked about this recently here: solar-photovoltaic / 1-or-2-strings-t16114.html

Enedis Doc of possible connections here: solaire-photovoltaique/1-ou-2-strings-t16114-60.html#p367273

[Grelinette]

We often mentioned this type of operation of certain equipment where it is enough to put them down, plug in, and presto, I send my current in the network and I deduct it from my electricity bill! Is it that simple?

Yes we can do it in France but it is very little done in reality because it undermines profitability because the injected kWh are just "erased" from the bill ... and at 15-16 cents per kWh it is 15 years of return for an average installation ...

The majority of installations are therefore double counted to benefit from the subsidized buyout price (less and less) ... We talked about this recently here: solar-photovoltaic / 1-or-2-strings-t16114.html

Enedis Doc of possible connections here: solaire-photovoltaique/1-ou-2-strings-t16114-60.html#p367273

Thank you Christophe for this answer. I will look at Doc Enedis and the subject Econology later.

That said, even if the profitability is ridiculous, I see this principle as a micro-water leak: the flow is tiny, but in the end the quantities are enormous. In addition, if the system is as simple as "Plug and Play", and we accumulate the quantities of hundreds, even thousands of people who do this constantly, the quantity of current produced and injected into the network becomes a priori interesting ... at least for the community.
(without mentioning the history of subsidies, which remain a controversial, very uncertain parameter and which addresses costly installations).

"Small rivers make great rivers"

[Forhorse]

If it is to inject, more or less wildly, a few hundred watts, no need to buy a garden shed with 15 balls ...
The necessary equipment is widely available and relatively inexpensive on the net, and there is no shortage of subjects on the injection of photovoltaic electricity on the grid, here we have already spoken about it many times. And if not there are forums dedicated to the issue.

In short, it would be nice if the other stopped spamming the forum with its chicken cages which have no interest other than enriching it ...

[Remundo]

each one his opinion on the product,

for some it can be interesting,

I had a question: can the vertical panel tilt to form a single slope roof?

[Bonnecabane]

I did not yet have a nasty friend, it is now done!

Today, there are hundreds of models of garden sheds for sale at LM, Cast and other DIY stores ... which are enriched by selling kits in northern wooden crates, sheet metal or imported wood-composite. no one knows where, which have a limited lifespan, and for which a masonry slab will have to be made. We can try to put PV on it, but not sure it will last very long. Now, are they less like chicken cages than our solution ... All tastes are in nature.

For electricity production: the objective is direct or optimized self-consumption. The injection of the surplus onto the network must remain marginal. And we think that the optimization solutions that allow to control the water heater, the dishwasher, the freezer, the washing machine, the air conditioning, the swimming pool pump ... during sunshine hours are full future. As for electric bikes, it's obvious.

When EDF gleefully offers 7,13% increase between June and August, and claims 3,5 to 4% more on January 1, 2020 (ladle + 10% in six months), self-consumption takes on meaning .

Question inclination of the vertical panels to find the roof slope, we are constrained by the road gauge. If the annual performance of vertical panels is lower than on the roof, they are still very productive at the beginning and end of the year when the sun is lower in the sky, at times when consumption is high. Nevertheless, we retain the idea, and we can consider a tilting chassis system, to be raised on site.

Because, no matter to some, it is especially these remarks and opinions of specialists that we seek by posting on this forum to meet our expectations as best we can.

In all sympathy.
Christophe

[Remundo]

yes, this is the point I wanted to raise: I understand the problem of the road gauge, but maybe mounting a chassis on a pivot could make it possible to have a single plan, and a mini-shelter on the ground. To offer as an option.

well it's an idea, it's up to you

[OlivierD]

Hello
I have nothing against the concept that can make a guest or teenager's room in the garden, but what about the guarantee? and I plussoie for a tilting frame on the vertical panel ...

it is true that for us handyman it is expensive, it would take a corner room of dau .. I am going to watch the video not to speak in the air


olive

[OlivierD]

I saw and here are my remarks:

we can't see the inside ...
vertical panels must be tiltable
the 8m²; is it inside or floor space with the awning ??

it's still nice but expensive.


olive

[Christophe]

As a reminder, the fair prices currently in FRANCE (and in Western Europe in general) are 1.5 € to 2 € per Wc installed...

I am in the process of setting up an installation for less than 0.8 € per Wc (auto installation) ... I will tell you more in a few days ...

[GuyGadeboisTheBack]

Pffff nothing that the bowl costs more! I wouldn't give a damn about the toilets at this price ...