the Belgians are as dumb as the French
another 1 GW going skyward... it's not as if 30 were missing in France alone!
Nuclear power continues in the world
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https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/entrepri ... %A9t%C3%A9."The plant is now the most powerful electricity production facility in Europe," TVO said in a statement.
With a power level of 1600 MW, the plant located on the southwest coast of the Nordic country has also become the third most powerful power generation facility in the world, the company said.
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izentrop wrote:Finland's ol3 reactor has started producing electricity at full power
So already it is not running at "full power" (1600Mw instead of 1650M%w), it is 12 years late and we will see how long it will run before being stopped again, the structural problems and engineering being always present....
And with the other filthy one, we will continue to accelerate towards the wall:
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indeed the centralized and nuclear character of an atomic power station is a great vulnerability.
on the other hand, 1000 MW adjustable in such peace is not nothing... without having to bring millions of tons of fuel.
on the other hand, 1000 MW adjustable in such peace is not nothing... without having to bring millions of tons of fuel.
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GuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:izentrop wrote:Finland's ol3 reactor has started producing electricity at full power
So already it is not running at "full power" (1600Mw instead of 1650M%w), ...
Not sure, where did you get that from?
Because 1600MW is the net power, the one that goes to the network
On the other hand, the consumption of the auxiliaries of a plant of this size is around 50MW. This would fit with a raw alternator output power of 1650MW, less 50MW directly consumed by the auxiliaries, equal 1600 to the network.
It is a hypothesis.
https://world-nuclear.org/information-l ... nland.aspx
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Illustration from Taishan (the 2 Chinese EPRs) according to Wikipedia (just for illustration, I do not comment on the numbers:
[i]The plant's twin reactors each have a nameplate capacity 1750 MWe. Its Arabelle generators are the largest single-piece electrical generators in the world, each weighing 495 tons and built by Dongfang Electric. Of the 3500 MWe gross delivered, around 180 MWe will be used by plant systems. Most of this is used to power the pumps that feed water into the steam generators. The pair of reactors can deliver 3320 MWe net for supply to the grid, making these the most powerful reactors in the world.[4]
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So for a slice:
--gross power 1750MW
- consumption of auxiliaries 90MW
-net power 1750-90=1660MW
[i]The plant's twin reactors each have a nameplate capacity 1750 MWe. Its Arabelle generators are the largest single-piece electrical generators in the world, each weighing 495 tons and built by Dongfang Electric. Of the 3500 MWe gross delivered, around 180 MWe will be used by plant systems. Most of this is used to power the pumps that feed water into the steam generators. The pair of reactors can deliver 3320 MWe net for supply to the grid, making these the most powerful reactors in the world.[4]
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So for a slice:
--gross power 1750MW
- consumption of auxiliaries 90MW
-net power 1750-90=1660MW
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sicetaitsimple wrote:Not sure, where did you get that from?
Because 1600MW is the net power, the one that goes to the network
https://energynews.pro/lepr-finlandais- ... e-retards/The most powerful reactor in Europe
At the end of this project launched in 2005 in the south-west of Finland, which has become a way of the cross for Areva undermined by delays and financial excesses, the Finnish EPR at Olkiluoto will become the most powerful reactor in operation in Europe. .
With a production capacity of 1650 MW, it should supply around 15% of the Nordic country's consumption.
https://www.midilibre.fr/2022/02/11/cen ... 103342.phpIn addition, the net power of an EPR reactor reaches 1 MWe (megawatts), which is a higher efficiency than previous models (from 660 MWe to 900 MWe).
Anyway, we won't quibble, if they are reliable at 1600, no need to push them more since then they start to vibrate (resonance?) and they have to be stopped.
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EDF completely on the loose calls on the Americans to Westinghouse to restart our nuclear power plants
source: Marianne
The national electrician is therefore asking for help from the Americans to ensure the revival of its reactors a few weeks before winter. In reality, this is not the first time that France has called on the United States to relaunch its nuclear program. Contrary to popular belief, the civil nuclear sector that we currently know in France is not 100% of French origin. While the engineers of the Atomic Energy Commission (CEA) had supervised after the Second World War the construction of several French reactors operating with graphite-gas technology (making it possible to produce a lot of plutonium, an element necessary for the atomic bomb), it was decided, under the Pompidou presidency, that the new reactors would use American pressurized water technology.
source: Marianne
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Just like you actuallyGuyGadeboisLeRetour wrote:no need to push them more since then they start to vibrate (resonance?) and you have to stop them.
(well, no, you're worse, a reactor doesn't have “evil behavior deliberately intended to harm”) interesting isn't it?
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IN FRANCE, Macron's bullshit continues, and as usual, is being paid for in billions and in huge technological and strategic losses...
Source: France 3 Burgundy
except that...
The 1400 employees of General Electric Steam Power will again work under the French flag. EDF takes over part of the nuclear activities of the American group which itself had bought them from the energy branch of Alstom in 2015.
After nine months of negotiations, EDF reached an agreement with General Electric on Friday to resume part of its nuclear activities, two days after the French government presented measures to facilitate the construction of new nuclear reactors.
The two groups have signed "a definitive agreement for the acquisition by EDF of the activities of GE Steam Power relating to the conventional island" of future nuclear power plants, French in particular, whose turbines constitute the main element, announced EDF in a statement.
These activities include the supply of equipment for new nuclear power plants, including Arabelle turbines, as well as maintenance and upgrades of equipment at existing nuclear power plants outside the Americas.
EDF
Source: France 3 Burgundy
except that...
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