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Re: Conservation agriculture




by Christophe » 03/08/22, 14:21

humus wrote:This farmer manages to grow vegetables without a drop of water.
and without mulch! : Shock:


If I understood correctly, he mulches the ground every year with the old shoots and “weeds”…which are no longer really so!
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Re: Conservation agriculture




by humus » 03/08/22, 16:24

izentrop wrote:Without mulching but hoeing often, a soil that has good water retention, a microclimate?

You need a lot of water for tomatoes... and not too many predators when they are on the ground, not too much rain either.
The few that touched the ground found themselves puffed or rotted, I prefer to take the time to stake them.
He must also select varieties resistant to drought...

In the Paris region, it is easier to sell 5-legged sheep :P

Yes you are right, the floor looks good.
It's not the first time I've heard that tomatoes are just waiting to run when we persist in making them climb. : Lol:
Some support them horizontally.
Each climate has its techniques, indeed.
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Re: Conservation agriculture




by humus » 03/08/22, 16:27

Christophe wrote:
If I understood correctly, he mulches the ground every year with the old shoots and “weeds”…which are no longer really so!

It must be humus : Wink:
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Re: Conservation agriculture




by Ahmed » 03/08/22, 17:33

All of this would require to be studied in more detail, beyond peremptory proclamations and shortcuts...

In my garden, it becomes problematic, with a sandy soil although rich in organic matter (currently partially mulched), but a well that only provides sparingly due to the low winter rainfall... Exit also summer storms of yesteryear... :(
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Re: Conservation agriculture




by Janic » 03/08/22, 18:50

currently on france 5 in it's in the air; "heat waves, droughts, how to adapt!" as a reminder, corn and tomatoes come from "dry" countries with low humidity. Only the current varieties selected for their WEIGHT yield are water-intensive.
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Re: Conservation agriculture




by sicetaitsimple » 03/08/22, 19:14

Ahmed wrote:All of this would require to be studied in more detail, beyond peremptory proclamations and shortcuts...


I have nothing against, or for that matter, this gentleman who seems quite nice.
But he is still a specialist in journalists in need of reports, see for example this one from 2015 where we learn that he did not have tomatoes in 2012,2013, 2014 and 10 and says himself that he had 28 good seasons out of XNUMX. Unfortunate for a market gardener.....


Moreover, he not only grows vegetables but also exotic fruits, lychees in this case. 60000€ anyway.. Well, he had a fire in his hangar....
https://www.leetchi.com/c/solidarite-po ... -maraicher
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In short, it would indeed require to be studied in more detail.
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Re: Conservation agriculture




by izentrop » 03/08/22, 21:24

humus wrote:
Christophe wrote:
If I understood correctly, he mulches the ground every year with the old shoots and “weeds”…which are no longer really so!
It must be humus : Wink:
A few blades of hoeed grass won't get you far.
What matters above all is to have a good layer of clay-humus complex accumulated over the past millennia.
sicetaitsimple wrote:Moreover, he not only grows vegetables but also exotic fruits, lychees in this case. 60000€ anyway.. Well, he had a fire in his hangar....
And aromatic plants. Like many farmers, young people do not want to take over this difficult job http://foodandsens.com/non-classe/marc- ... -de-paris/
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Re: Conservation agriculture




by Janic » 04/08/22, 07:55

izmentrop
young people do not want to take over this difficult job
when they see what mess agrochemicals led their elders into and that they are drowning in debts in materials and chemical products dangerous to health, we understand that they prefer a cushy job without the vagaries of nature and the banks that ruined their parents.
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Re: Conservation agriculture




by humus » 04/08/22, 08:20

In the same vein, finally he should not fear mildew in his dry and hot region.
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Re: Conservation agriculture




by Janic » 04/08/22, 09:26

04/08/22, 08:20
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In the same vein, finally he should not fear mildew in his dry and hot region.
downy mildew only spreads on plants that are poorly adapted to the local microcosm. Plant diseases are like human diseases, namely that the microbe (the parasite, the fungus, the bacterium) only develops in fragile subjects. "The microbe is nothing, the ground is everything" Claude BERNARD
Point of view in total opposition to pasteurism. and his obsession with nasty germs.
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