The fable of anthropogenic warming and the fight against CO2

[ABC2019]

none of them has to dictate to society how it should behave, climatologists no more than the others.

Let the industrialists and the corrupt public authorities do it. They know what they are doing and that climatologists are shutting up. As Izy says so well "You don't want to impose your ideas on those whose job it is".

climatologists do not have to "shut their mouths", but they are only competent in climatology, which is far from representing the whole of human society. Otherwise, they are citizens like the others, they can express themselves but do not have to present themselves as gurus who decide everything for society.

[GuyGadebois]

none of them has to dictate to society how it should behave, climatologists no more than the others.

Let the industrialists and the corrupt public authorities do it. They know what they are doing and that climatologists are shutting up. As Izy says so well "You don't want to impose your ideas on those whose job it is".

climatologists do not have to "shut their mouths", but they are only competent in climatology, which is far from representing the whole of human society. Otherwise, they are citizens like the others, they can express themselves but do not have to present themselves as gurus who decide everything for society.

As far as I know, the IPCC only measures and alerts. They have no power, neither monetary nor executive, they decide NOTHING unlike the billionaire firms that you defend who have them, exorbitant powers. So you can put your fantasies back where you got them from.

[ABC2019]

Let the industrialists and the corrupt public authorities do it. They know what they are doing and that climatologists are shutting up. As Izy says so well "You don't want to impose your ideas on those whose job it is".

climatologists do not have to "shut their mouths", but they are only competent in climatology, which is far from representing the whole of human society. Otherwise, they are citizens like the others, they can express themselves but do not have to present themselves as gurus who decide everything for society.

As far as I know, the IPCC only measures and alerts. They have no power, neither monetary nor executive, they decide NOTHING unlike the billionaire firms that you defend who have them, exorbitant powers. So you can put your fantasies back where you got them from.

the IPCC does not measure anything at all, it collects the results published in scientific articles. And the IPCC is not a person, it cannot "decide" anything either. I'm talking about the majority of climatologists who speak, not "under" the IPCC (they are not necessarily empowered to do so), but by referring to the IPCC to say they know what to do and fix "goals" to the world. There are a lot of things that the IPCC does not study seriously, which are not climatology, for example the impact it would have on the world to drastically reduce fossil emissions. We are making a big deal out of what would cause 0,5 * C more but we have no serious study on what would cause - 7% fossils per year on society !!! but it is obviously ALSO a question to ask, no, before saying that it should be done?

the result is an increasingly apparent discrepancy between more and more catastrophic discourse and a reality that is moving further and further away from it.

[Ahmed]

In a world of specialists, experts and counter-experts who strive to draw attention to themselves, thus obscuring the globality of the problems and dispossessing non-experts, everything is evaluated in "pieces". Currently, all attention is focused on CO², which allows you not to worry about other "drawers" ...
But, in a complex system, the whole is always greater than the sum of the parts and considering that each part in isolation only leads to inadequate judgments.

[ABC2019]

agree with these wise words!
except that we don't write CO² but CO₂

[GuyGadebois]

the IPCC

https://jancovici.com/changement-climat ... e-le-giec/

[Ahmed]

I prefer to write CO², for the sake of fairness ...

[Exnihiloest]

Ice bastard!
This rebel from Greenland allows himself to make climato-realism and instead of continuing to decrease as expected for all glaciers by the IPCC, here he begins to thicken at an accelerated speed in a few years:
https://www.the-cryosphere.net/14/211/2 ... 1-2020.pdf

I suspect this glacier is the boot of the oil industry! Ice bastard!

[GuyGadebois]

Ice bastard!
This rebel from Greenland allows himself to make climato-realism and instead of continuing to decrease as expected for all glaciers by the IPCC, here he begins to thicken at an accelerated speed in a few years:
https://www.the-cryosphere.net/14/211/2 ... 1-2020.pdf

I suspect this glacier is the boot of the oil industry! Ice bastard!

Or how to take an example (and only one) of a thickening glacier (we now know why) while all the others are retreating! What a nice honesty again ...

[Good news] Greenland's largest glacier is thickening again

Against all odds, the largest glacier in Greenland is growing up and getting bigger. A surprising phenomenon which is explained by a cooling of ocean currents. But this good news is only temporary, warn the scientists of NASA, because, in the long term, the oceans will warm.
https://www.novethic.fr/actualite/envir ... 47096.html

Thus, the thickening of the Jakobshavn, observed since 2016, would be linked to a colder phase of the North Atlantic oscillation, a climatic phenomenon concerning the ocean-atmosphere regime in the North Atlantic. "But this cooling will not last forever, says the Live Science site. According to the researchers, when the current trend of the North Atlantic oscillation is reversed, the Jakobshavn glacier will surely start to melt more quickly and start to reverse again. ”
https://www.courrierinternational.com/a ... st-epaissi

You can go drink your lime-mint.

[Exnihiloest]

...
Or how to take an example (and only one) of a thickening glacier (we now know why) while all the others are retreating! What a nice honesty again ...
...

Poor Gadgetdebois, he does not yet know at his age that a single counterexample is enough to invalidate a supposedly general rule, such as the reduction of glaciers! Not only does he ignore it, but he also uses it as an excuse to accuse you of dishonesty, no doubt he believes that stupidity would excuse everything.