End of the 100 engine% diesel or gasoline to 2040 ???

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Re: End of the engine 100% diesel or gasoline to 2040 ???




by Obamot » 30/10/22, 03:44

Christophe wrote:Ah that's why simpleton understands nothing at all at injection PV,
watch out, think it's mRNA injections —>[_]
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by Obamot » 30/10/22, 07:53

Well the full almost free, and I who believed in it.....



: Arrowu: : Arrowu: He forgets to indicate that Renault rents the batteries to him : Arrowu: : Arrowu:

In short, unless you have a big enough roof lined with solar panels (and when I say big enough, you have to see the winter... and I'll be told that you have to dampen the panels), I refer to the posts of Phil59 to get a good user review.
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by Janic » 30/10/22, 08:31

the problem with simpletons and phils is to believe in an all-pink electric future when it will be blood red. Certainly the first to have benefited from the windfall of charging prices lower than the cost of production, to have benefited from bonuses (have we spun bonuses for thermals?) bonuses that thermal users pay them! All of this is a smokescreen until only EDF has the monopoly[*] of production and distribution at “petroleum” prices in times of crisis. Who will be the fucked?

[*] like the Western medical monopoly like for the pseudo covid vaccines where the "beneficiaries" have been taken in in its outline and who are starting to notice it!
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by phil59 » 30/10/22, 08:33

There have been very few ze50s in locabat, almost all of them are in full "purchase".

Now, it's more complicated to have a rental battery, than to buy it, at Renault.
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by Forhorse » 30/10/22, 08:39

Janic wrote:have we spun bonuses for thermals?


Yes, we called it baladurettes and skirts
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by phil59 » 30/10/22, 08:42

Janic wrote:the problem with simpletons and phils is to believe in an all-pink electric future when it will be blood red. Certainly the first to have benefited from the windfall of charging prices lower than the cost of production, to have benefited from bonuses (have we spun bonuses for thermals?) bonuses that thermal users pay them! All of this is a smokescreen until only EDF has the monopoly[*] of production and distribution at “petroleum” prices in times of crisis. Who will be the fucked?

[*] like the Western medical monopoly like for the pseudo covid vaccines where the "beneficiaries" have been taken in in its outline and who are starting to notice it!


To believe that the EV is the miracle and irreproachable solution would be total madness.
But currently, it's one of the "least worst" solutions.
On the other hand, we can almost do without EDF to refuel, something that we will not be able to do with oil or hydrogen.

And when is the tax on sneakers for those who don't have a car? : Lol:

The electric bicycle and derivative would remain an excellent choice, but it was even less suitable than the EV for distances of more than 15-30 minutes.
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by phil59 » 30/10/22, 08:43

Forhorse wrote:
Janic wrote:have we spun bonuses for thermals?


Yes, we called it baladurettes and skirts


And there were many more than for EVs....
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by Obamot » 30/10/22, 09:33

So I don't know about EVs since I don't have any, but I can assure you that a 30min trip on an electric bike is still “profitable”, already for cardio-training. It's even just the minimum. 30 min to go and 30 min to return this may be ideal for some...
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by Janic » 30/10/22, 10:20

Janic wrote:
have we spun bonuses for thermals?

Yes, we called it baladurettes and skirts
exact, but whose purpose was the scrapping of vehicles in poor condition, but having nevertheless passed the CT, (set up and compulsory in 92.)
There it is not a question of scrapping thermal vehicles, but of launching the sale of EVs, which the owners of VTs then pay (knowing that many thermal vehicles: truck, construction machinery, etc.. .are not concerned, although they are the biggest "polluters".
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by phil59 » 30/10/22, 10:37

Janic wrote:Janic wrote:
but whose purpose was the scrapping of vehicles in poor condition, but having nevertheless passed the CT, (set up and compulsory in 92.)
There it is not a question of scrapping thermal vehicles, but of launching the sale of EVs, which the owners of VTs then pay (knowing that many thermal vehicles: truck, construction machinery, etc.. .are not concerned, although they are the biggest "polluters".



You've had enough bad times!

At the time, it was all the taxpayers who paid for this bonus, to revive "the factories", the economy.

Even the one who didn't have a car...

There, we encourage the sale of EVs, but this premium, at the same time, has a perverse effect, of distorting the price of EVs....
And why this premium too? For people like you who denigrate without knowing a means of transport.

Yes, construction machinery, boats, pollute much more.

So, to follow your reasoning, let's sit on our couch, and peacefully watch the "smoke" rise....

Or, we start with what is easiest, private cars, and we start to put standards on the new "thingies" that pollute a lot .... to gradually reduce their pollution, and find the energy who would be better (not well for all that) for their case.

Scrapping a 10-15 year old VT is often stupid, if it's just to get a bonus.

We don't know how to make EVs fast enough at the moment.
What is on the road, drinkable, is not the priority to eliminate it.

The guy who has a 50-year-old collector's VT is not a problem either, if he pollutes a little more, it's minor cases ....
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